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               UNION OF THE PROVINCES. 
               
               
            
            
            
            
               MONDAY, March 18. 
               
               
               
            
            
            
            
            The House met at 3 o'clock. 
               
               
            
            
            
            
               The adjourned debate on the Answer to the 
               
               Address was resumed and all the clauses excepting the last were adopted. 
               
               
            
            
            
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                  Mr. Stewart Campbell's Speech. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. S. CAMPBELL said :—In accordance with 
                  
                  the intimation given by me on a previous day 
                  
                  —on the first occasion when I had an opportunity of doing so, I now proceed to move
                  an 
                  
                  amendment to the last clause of the Address 
                  
                  in answer to His Excellency's Speech, and I 
                  
                  will at once read the paragraph which I propose to substitute. 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                  
                     We regret that we are unable to perceive any 
                     
                     grounds whereon to reciprocate your Excellency's 
                     
                     congratulation upon the assumed success of the Delegation, commissioned by your Excellency
                     under 
                     
                     the resolution of this House to confer with  Her Majesty's Government on the subject
                     of the Union of 
                     
                     the Colonies. 
                     
                     
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     On behalf of the free people of Nova Scotia we 
                     
                     would respectfully submit that in relation to that 
                     
                     question the present is in our opinion a most important crisis in the history of this
                     Province, and imperatively demands the exercise of the wisest discretion 
                     
                     in the administration of its public affairs. Thus firmly impressed, we deem it to
                     be our duty to convey to 
                     
                     your Excellency our solemn protest against the 
                     
                     action of the Delegates referred to, and most distinctly to claim and demand, on behalf
                     of Nova Scotia, that no such measure as that proposed should 
                     
                     have any operation in this Province until it has been 
                     
                     deliberately reviewed by its Legislature, and sanctioned by the people at the polls.
                     
                     
                     
                   
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. Speaker, it is with no ordinary feelings 
                  
                  that I view my position in regard to the topic 
                  
                  of to-day. Gladly would I exchange the prominency in which I have been placed for
                  one 
                  
                  of less responsibility, one calling upon me in a 
                  
                  more subordinate capacity to advocate the 
                  
                  principles which I am prepared to avow. 
                  
                  Truly would I have rejoiced if the occasion 
                  
                  which has rendered my election necessary 
                  
                  had not arisen—if in short there had not been 
                  
                  the necessity for presenting to the house the 
                  
                  views of the people of this country as we conceive them to exist. But although on
                  personal grounds I would have preferred the substitution of another state of things,
                  yet being 
                  
                  placed in such a position, and feeling called 
                  
                  upon as I am for action in this matter, I do 
                  
                  not hesitate to approach this subject as a member of a free legislature representing
                  a free people 
                  
                  In answer to His Excellency's Speech, I feel 
                  
                  that we are called on to say that we cannot 
                  
                  reciprocate the language in which it is couched,—we cannot see that there is any ground
                  
                  
                  for congratulating ourselves upon the success 
                  
                  of a measure in which the people have no 
                  
                  sympathy or concurrence. In ransacking the 
                  
                  pages of history it is exceedingly difficult to 
                  
                  find a case parellel to this. There are records 
                  
                  of wrong, and spoliation, and injustice, in comparatively modern times, but we must
                  go 
                  
                  back, very far back indeed to find an instance 
                  
                  such as that which calls for this amendment. 
                  
                  It is true we need only go back a hundred 
                  
                  years to find an unhappy state of things subsisting between the mother country and
                  her 
                  
                  colonies on this side of the water, and we know 
                  
                  the results of the disaffection then induced by 
                  
                  arbitrary enactments affecting the integrity of 
                  
                  the Empire as it then existed, but I can find 
                  
                  no record of rejoicing in such a condition as 
                  
                  that in which we are placed until I extend my 
                  
                  retrospect and revert to a history of a tyrant, 
                  
                  Emperor though he may be called, who fiddled while Rome was burning. In that case
                  
                  
                  alone can I find a similarity of circumstances 
                  
                  and a paralleled contempt and disregard of na
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  tional feeling. The delegation referred to in 
                  
                  the Address was constituted under a resolution 
                  
                  of this Legislature at its last session, which 
                  
                  reads as follows: 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                  
                     Resolved, That his Excellency the Lieut. Governor 
                     
                     be authorized to appoint delegates to arrange with 
                     
                     the Imperial Government a scheme of union which 
                     
                     will effectually ensure just provision for the rights 
                     
                     and interests of this Province; each Province to have 
                     
                     an equal voice in such delegation, Upper and Lower 
                     
                     Canada being for this purpose considered as separate 
                     
                     Provinces. 
                     
                     
                   
               
               
               
               
                  That delegation was commissioned as I understand it to arrange with the Imperial Government
                  a scheme of union, but was it even contemplated by the people or the house that that
                  
                  
                  delegation was empowered to be parties to an 
                  
                  Imperial act of Parliament, an arbitrary act? 
                  
                  I am convinced that no such idea could have 
                  
                  entered into the minds of gentlemen around 
                  
                  these benches. Did we, the Parliament of Nova Scotia entrusted with and empowered
                  to 
                  
                  decide on the weal or woe of our country, and 
                  
                  charged with the protection of the interests of 
                  
                  the people, part with a right so deeply affecting their welfare as this Union will?
                  No, sir. 
                  
                  I conceive then that this delegation has exceeded its authority, and that the commission
                  
                  
                  under which they probably acted was not authorised by this resolution. We had delegates
                  
                  
                  in connection with this subject on a previous 
                  
                  occasion, and the resolution under which they 
                  
                  were appointed was similar in its terms to 
                  
                  this, but was it supposed that the delegates 
                  
                  sent to Charlottetown and Quebec were empowered to do anything but prepare a scheme
                  
                  
                  to be submitted {or the ratification of this 
                  
                  house? Not by any means, and therefore 
                  
                  when those gentlemen went across the water 
                  
                  and became parties to an imperial act, when  
                  
                  they were engaged in the lobby of the British 
                  
                  Parliament promoting that act, they exceeded 
                  
                  the authority conferred upon them by this 
                  
                  house and by their commission. In that view 
                  
                  I think that the action of the delegation is such 
                  
                  as the house and the people should not sustain. 
                  
                  This is a matter which should have been 
                  
                  brought back here and subjected to the consideration of the legislature. But they
                  have 
                  
                  consummated the act as far as it was in their 
                  
                  power to do so, and under what circumstances 
                  
                  have their proceedings transpired? It is well 
                  
                  known that the people of this country in every 
                  
                  section petitioned by thousands praying that 
                  
                  the scheme should not receive any consummation at the hands of the Imperial Government
                  until it had been submitted 
                  
                  to them at the polls, but how have these petitions been treated? Have we heard that
                  they 
                  
                  have even been read or even presented, in order that the wishes of the country should
                  be 
                  
                  known? Then this bill, framed by the delegates, under an authority which they assumed
                  
                  
                  but had not, was introduced into the House of 
                  
                  Lords, a body composed, I think, of between 
                  
                  300 and 400 members, and how was it there received when presented for consideration?
                  Of 
                  
                  the hundreds of members, there could not be 
                  
                  found one to witness its formal presentation 
                  
                  one round dozen, and that important bill, 
                  
                  touching the rights, the property and persons 
                  
                  of our people for all time to come, was not 
                  
                  even read. It was read by its title only, and  
                  
                  the important details it embodied never 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  reached the ears or the hearts of the members 
                  
                  composing that branch of the Imperial Legislature. It passed the House of Lords with
                  
                  
                  more facility than a bill imposing a tax on 
                  
                  dogs would have done. It was hurried through 
                  
                  in indecent and disgraceful haste, and sent to 
                  
                  the House of Commons. How was it received 
                  
                  there? I cannot imagine how it should have 
                  
                  met with any other reception than it did when 
                  
                  I read the observations of members of that 
                  
                  house—observations which must have proceeded from information coming from a quarter
                  from which sounder information should 
                  
                  have been supplied. It was there stated by 
                  
                  prominent members that this matter had been 
                  
                  before the people just previous to the last election; that the Premier had gone to
                  every hustings, and at every polling booth in the Province had preached on the question
                  of Union. 
                  
                  It was on information such as that that the 
                  
                  enlightened House of Commons proceeded 
                  
                  and I need scarcely ask members whether 
                  
                  that information was true or false. Is there a 
                  
                  member of this house or a man in the country 
                  
                  who will venture to say that previous to the 
                  
                  last election—at the time when the canvass 
                  
                  was taking place—this question was presented 
                  
                  to the people, or that on any hustîngs it was 
                  
                  even mentioned. And if not, I care not 
                  
                  whether it had been at any previous time. In 
                  
                  the course of my professional training I have 
                  
                  learned this principle: that the last will which 
                  
                  a man makes is that which must; be recognized. Whatever his previous dispositions
                  may 
                  
                  have been, they are cancelled and annulled by 
                  
                  his subsequent wishes. When, therefore, at 
                  
                  the last election, the matter was altogether 
                  
                  ignored I am right in saying that it was not 
                  
                  before the people, and that they did not then 
                  
                  express their views upon it. But let me be 
                  
                  more particular. I have in my hand a copy of 
                  
                  the London Times, an authority which will be 
                  
                  especially acceptable to members of government, and it contains the debate on this
                  question. This report contains so many amusing 
                  
                  pieces of misinformation that I must trouble 
                  
                  the house with a few extracts. Mr. Watkins 
                  
                  who, for many good reasons, but none of them 
                  
                  referable to the interests of Nova Scotia, took 
                  
                  a deep interest in the proceedings and action of 
                  
                  the delegation is reported to have said in reference to this Province: " There was
                  a general election in 1863, and the Prime Minister 
                  
                  went through the country preaching this Confederation of the provinces. It was brought
                  
                  
                  under the notice of the electors at every polling booth, and at every hustings the
                  issue was 
                  
                  distinctly raised " I am willing to give the 
                  
                  leader of the government credit for great versatility of talent, but I never knew that he had 
                  
                  the qualifications of a, preacher, unless it 
                  
                  be true which I do not assert, that a great sinner is likely to be most successful
                  in converting man from sin. If I read on further it 
                  
                  would be still more apparent that the Parliament of England has been grossly deceived
                  at 
                  
                  a time when there were present about them 
                  
                  men who ought to have taken care that the 
                  
                  subject  should be looked into most carefully. 
                  
                  I find also that the debate embodied the idea 
                  
                  that this measure was a treaty of peace between these Provinces. I am rather disposed
                  
                  
                  to view it as a declaration of war—war on the 
                  
                  rights, the feelings, the interests and the liberties of the people of this country.
                  Those gen
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  tlemen who, since the last session, have visited their constituencies must be well
                  satisfied 
                  
                  of that opposition for no man with open eyes 
                  
                  and ears could have travelled through the rural districts without seeing and hearing
                  that 
                  
                  the measure was obnoxious to the feelings of 
                  
                  the people. If it were a measure good instead 
                  
                  of bad, if it had merits instead of demerits 
                  
                  without number, I conceive that the people 
                  
                  who are to be affected by its operation should 
                  
                  be heard upon it in a constitutional manner at 
                  
                  the polls, and until they are so heard you may 
                  
                  pass this Act of Parliament, calling it an Imperial Act if you will, but it will be
                  a blank 
                  
                  piece of paper until the hearts and sympathies 
                  
                  of the people rally round it to give it effect. 
                  
                  By the amendment which I have submitted we 
                  
                  ask to obtain for the people the liberty to speak 
                  
                  on the subject, and why should they not speak. 
                  
                  According to the constitution of this house 
                  
                  the day is not far distant when under any circumstances the House would be dissolved,—
                  
                  
                  its existence can last but for a few weeks and 
                  
                  why this haste? I must say that we have 
                  
                  approached a crisis of a momentous character 
                  
                  in our history. This Province until a recent 
                  
                  period was a loyal and happy Colony, having 
                  
                  every reason to be loyal, every reason to be 
                  
                  happy until this unfortunate and unhappy 
                  
                  measure was brought in and cast among us. 
                  
                  Shall I be told that loyalty exists now 
                  
                  in the same richness among us as it once and 
                  
                  recently did? Mr. Speaker, I strenuously 
                  
                  opposed the measure last Session on the ground 
                  
                  that the course about to be taken would endanger the allegiance and undermine the
                  loyalty of the people and since that time I have 
                  
                  seen that that result is but too probable. We 
                  
                  are told by members of the Imperial Parliament that it is desirable we should be separated
                  from the British Empire and further we are 
                  
                  told that it is not alone for the interests of 
                  
                  Nova Scotia that the scheme has been projected—that there are reasons making it desirable
                  that we should be connected with a large 
                  
                  country. To secure Canada from foreign invasion the right of Nova Scotians are to
                  be interfered with and trampled upon I conceive 
                  
                  that Nova Scotia has at least as just a claim 
                  
                  to the protection of England as Canada, Nova 
                  
                  Scotia has been truly loyal, and in every hour 
                  
                  of danger she had exhibited a disposition, to 
                  
                  the uttermost extent of her resources to stand 
                  
                  by and maintain the honor and integrity of the 
                  
                  Empire. I conceive that the transactions of  
                  
                  the past few months are exhibiting a poor return for that loyalty and that allegiance.
                  The 
                  
                  loyalty which I desire to see is the loyalty of 
                  
                  the heart, not the loyalty pampered and fed  
                  
                  and fattened by the contents of the treasury 
                  
                  The loyalty of the heart, springing from just and 
                  
                  honorable motives—that is the loyalty which 
                  
                  is desirable, and anything else is unworthy of 
                  
                  the name. In this amendment we beg to approach His Excellency with the respectable,
                  
                  submission that this is a most important crisis 
                  in our history. The men who best know the 
                  country feel this as they travel through its 
                  length and breadth. Pass this act without reference to the people whose rights are
                  to be 
                  affected, and do you make them its friends?  
                  Do you not rather create in them feelings precisely the reverse? Do you not make them
                  
                  enemies and disloyal? Those who are in opposition have been denounced as disloyal,
                  but 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  that reproach can hardly come from men who 
                  
                  by their conduct have brought about this state 
                  of feelings. The men who are open to the 
                  charge are those who are forcing it on the 
                  country. I have said that the country was. 
                  peaceable, loyal and happy before,—if it is not 
                  so now it is because of t is measure, and for no 
                  other reason whatever. The amendment suggests a solemn protest against the action
                  of 
                  the delegation. For the reasons I have mentioned, I think the house should concur
                  in that 
                  protest. The delegates have exceeded their 
                  authority : they were delegates from the house 
                  for the purpose of preparing a scheme, not for 
                  converting that scheme into an Act of Parliament, while we had within our own borders
                  a 
                  legislature with a right to exercise its own 
                  judgment, and one that has never done aught 
                  to induce an abridgement of its rights. I 
                  need hardly repeat that I desire to see the 
                  scheme of Union submitted to the people. 
                  That is the view that I have always maintained and expressed, and I should view 
                  with sorrow rather than with anger, 
                  the adoption of any other course for I believe 
                  that any other course would endanger the happiness, the loyalty, and the best interests
                  of 
                  our people. It is not my intention now to 
                  press upon the House any. other view than the 
                  necessity which exists for preserving this Province in a peaceful and happy condition,
                  and I 
                  think it is our bounded duty to adopt the 
                  course which I have urged. I wish before detaining the House further, to hear reasons
                  
                  why that course should not be pursued. I 
                  ask those gentlemen who stand in the the positions 
                  of guardians of the public liberties why they 
                  are not prepared to submit the measure to the 
                  people? Why this haste? What is the pressing necessity? The more the subject is discussed,
                  the more averse are the people to its 
                  features. During the past summer the feeling 
                  was comparatively mild and moderate to what 
                  it is to-day, and the reason was that in the 
                  trustfulness of their hearts the people never 
                  could have supposed that a measure so seriously to aflfect them would have reached
                  the 
                  point it has without their voice being heard in 
                  a constitutional manner. But the awful note 
                  has lately sounded in their ears telling them 
                  that their fate is approaching, that their constitution is about to be a thing of
                  the past, that 
                  their liberties are to be abridged forever, and 
                  they now feel excited if not enraged. If that 
                  be their feeling they have just cause for it. 
                  Men in whom they trusted- men who held 
                  their positions and ate their bread by the 
                  breath of the people- these were the men who 
                  stood between them and their liberties. and 
                  sought to cut of their freedom forever. 
                  It is a painful thing to receive an 
                  injury at the hands of friend—it is a gall 
                  ing thing to receive the blow, of ingratitude, and that is the state of feeling existing
                  
                  in the breasts of the people of. this country, 
                  They are indignant that the men whom they 
                  elevated to power for other and noble purposes, should have been the instruments of
                  the 
                  annihilation of their freedom. What should 
                  be the feelings of a representative? There 
                  should be some regard for the feelings of the 
                  men who sent him here and elevated him to 
                  so honorable a position, and if any among us 
                  should disregard these feelings, the day 
                  cannot be distant when their consciences 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  will be grievously disturbed. I trust none 
                  
                  of these individuals will suffer from the remorse which such considerations will induce;
                  
                  
                  for my part I shall have the satisfaction of 
                  
                  having in a humble way asserted the rights of 
                  
                  the people on this question. I think that the 
                  
                  friends of England and the friends of Nova 
                  
                  Scotia should require and acquiesce in no other course then t at which 1 have advocated,
                  
                  
                  for he is no friend to this country and an enemy 
                  
                  to England who would force this measure on 
                  
                  the necks and hearts of an unwiiling people 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. S. CAMPBELL continued:—The hon. gentleman says hear! hear! I wish he would hear 
                  
                  and act in conformity with the views I expressed. What placed him in the position
                  he 
                  
                  occupies? It was the voice of the people of this 
                  
                  city of the metropolis, and for what? To destroy the rights and sacrifice their liberties?
                  
                  
                  No, not for that, and when he next appeals to 
                  
                  his constituents for their suffrages if ever he 
                  
                  ventures to do so, I hope they will tell him so. 
                  
                  He was placed here to preserve the the constitution of the country and to perpetuate
                  its 
                  
                  loyalty, and I hope he will he told in a voice 
                  
                  of thunder that he is one of those who have 
                  
                  forfeited the pledges which he gave. I trust 
                  
                  that gentlemen will carefully consider this 
                  
                  amendment, they will see that it contains no 
                  
                  idea that it is not founded in justice and truth, 
                  
                  and is in all respects entitled to their concurrence and support.    
                  
                  
                  
 
               
                
            
            
            
            
               
               
               Speech of Mr. Killam. 
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. Killam :—I rise for the purpose of 
                  
                  seconding the amendment which has just been 
                  
                  moved by the hon. member for Guysboro, 
                  
                  with whose remarks I fully agree. It is well 
                  
                  known in this house that I do not make any 
                  
                  pretentions to the eloquence of other gentlemen, but the views I entertain on this
                  question 
                  
                  are the result of deep conviction. I may not 
                  
                  be able to express these views as I would wish, 
                  
                  but I feel them very strongly. The hon. gentleman has referred to the recent delegation
                  
                  
                  and the manner in which the authority given 
                  
                  by this house has been exceeded, but he hardly 
                  
                  went deep enough into that, matter in my opinion. He must recollect that when the
                  Provincial Secretary was pressing his resolution 
                  
                  upon the house, last session, he referred some 
                  
                  years back for the purpose of strengthening his 
                  
                  argument. He stated that the leaders of the 
                  
                  political parties in this Legislature had moved 
                  
                  resolutions in favour of this scheme of Union 
                  
                  but did he ever hear of a single resolution that 
                  
                  had not coupled with it the condition that the 
                  
                  question would be referred back to the Legislature, and that means the people. Mr.
                  Johnston, Mr. Young, Mr. Howe were all quoted 
                  
                  in illustration of his argument, but can he assert that the question was ever treated
                  by them 
                  
                  in a practical point of view. The hon. gentleman has in England quoted these gentlemen
                  as 
                  
                  the advocates of this scheme and tried to make 
                  
                  the public men of that country believe that the 
                  
                  people of Nova Scotia are in favour of a Union 
                  
                  of these provinces with Canada. These delegates were to go and see if they could agree
                  on 
                  
                  some measure that would suit the members of 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  this Legislature better than the Quebec scheme. 
                  
                  There has never been any measure of Union 
                  
                  submitted to this house for its deliberation. Instead of bringing back what they agreed
                  on they 
                  
                  have put their hands to an Act of Parliament. 
                  
                  We are hereafter to be bound by a paper constitution which has never been submitted
                  to us 
                  
                  for our consideration. No more important 
                  
                  question than this was ever before the people of 
                  
                  this country. If this bill is passed we are deprived of the power of hereafter legislating
                  for 
                  
                  ourselves. We shall certainly have a voice in 
                  
                  the General Parliament, but that the people 
                  
                  don't want at all. Nothing can reconcile the 
                  
                  people to the manner in which this measure is 
                  
                  being forced upon them. They might have 
                  
                  submitted to an Act of Union, if the British 
                  
                  Parliament and people had declared that it was 
                  
                  positively necessary for Imperial purposes, but 
                  
                  that has not been the case. It appears by the 
                  
                  papers that Her Maiesty's Ministers have all 
                  
                  the time been under the delusion that in promoting the measure they are pleasing the
                  people of Nova Scotia—a delusion created and fostered by the delegates. It is not
                  difficult to 
                  
                  understand the motives that have prompted the 
                  
                  delegates to take the course they have. These 
                  
                  politicians wish to put themselves out of the 
                  
                  power of the people—to obtain place and emolument without the wishes of the people
                  being 
                  
                  at all consulted. The public men ot New 
                  
                  Brunswick dissolved the legislature when they 
                  
                  returned from Quebec, and the people returned 
                  
                  a large majority opposed to Union with Canada. 
                  
                  Another election subsequently took place. and 
                  
                  the people, for some reason or other, reversed 
                  
                  the verdict they had given previously. So the 
                  
                  the people of New Brunswick have been appealed to twice on this question, whilst the
                  people of Nova Scotia have not been consulted 
                  
                  even once. The course pursued by these gentlemen is, as far as I know. unprecedented
                  in 
                  
                  the history of legislation. Even Napoleon did 
                  
                  better than they have done. I look upon this 
                  
                  Act of Parliament, if it is passed, as destroying 
                  
                  the colonial system 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  If British colonies anywhere find that their 
                  
                  rights and privileges can be transferred at any 
                  
                  time to another country against their wishes— 
                  
                  to some other people with whom they can have 
                  
                  no sympathy—thev will feel that their security 
                  
                  and prosperity rest upon a very insecure basis. 
                  
                  The people of Nova Scotia are not the only 
                  
                  ones opposed to that measure ; for we have reason to believe that a large number of
                  the Lower 
                  
                  Canadians entertain similar views. Nearly one 
                  
                  half of the people of New Brunswick are opposed to the measure. We know how few people
                  it takes to turn the scales in an election. It 
                  
                  is quite true that measures often pass the Legislature which are very objectionable
                  to the 
                  
                  people, but they know that the time will come 
                  
                  when they will be able to express their opinions 
                  
                  on these obnoxious measures, and have them 
                  
                  repealed. Now. however, you are to fasten a 
                  
                  measure upon them which will fetter them for 
                  
                  all time—hand them over to Canada for ever. 
                  
                  I agree with the hon. member for Guysboro', 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  that this scheme states a fatal blow at the connection between these colonies and
                  the mother 
                  
                  country. Nova Scotia has always hitherto been 
                  
                  considered a loyal province. I feel as loyal as 
                  
                  any person in this house ; I have not been 
                  
                  ready to bow down to the authority of every 
                  
                  person, but I pay respect to the laws and the government under which I live. I have
                  British 
                  
                  feelings in my breast, I feel proud to see England great and prosperous, but a measure
                  of this 
                  
                  kind must create discontent among the whole 
                  
                  population of this province. The majority in 
                  
                  this house who decide against the people assume a very grave responsibility Many of
                  
                  
                  them will regret it deeply if they act contrary 
                  
                  to the sentiments of the people. We are too 
                  
                  near a great country to be trifled with in a matter of this kind. Let no one attempt
                  to make 
                  
                  the people believe that the British government 
                  
                  would barter away their rights unfairly. Let 
                  
                  gentlemen consider, therefore, the great responsibility that rests upon them in the
                  present 
                  
                  important emergency, and decide wisely before 
                  
                  it is too late. 
                  
                  
               
               
                
            
            
            
            
               
               
               
                  Speech of Hon. Prov. Secretary. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Dr. Tupper replied as follows:—I feel by no 
                  
                  means disposed to find fault with the mode and 
                  
                  temper in which this subject has been approached. No doubt the hon. mover of the amendment,
                  in confining himself mainly to the con. 
                  
                  stitutional point which he has raised, felt that 
                  
                  the peculiar circumstances under which the 
                  
                  House meets—the very advanced period of the 
                  
                  session and the necessity of dealing immediately 
                  
                  with certain portions of the public business 
                  
                  which will not admit of postponement—induced 
                  
                  him to limit his remarks to the range he has 
                  
                  done. The hon. member who has seconded the 
                  
                  resolution, with that due regard to the public 
                  
                  time which he has always shown, felt also that 
                  
                  this was not an occasion when a great deal of 
                  
                  debateable matter should be opened up. I intend to follow the example of these hon
                  gentlemen, and shall as succinctly as possible deal 
                  
                  with the constitutional point that has been raised, without going into any lengthy
                  observations 
                  
                  on the great subject which is brought under the 
                  
                  consideration of the House. 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  It would have been perhaps too much to expect that the hon. members opposite who entertain
                  very strong opinions on this question 
                  
                  should not have availed themselves of the present opportunity ot putting upon record
                  their 
                  
                  views and opinions in reference to the Address. 
                  
                  As one of the advisers of His Excellency I 
                  
                  would have been glad, had it been possible, if a 
                  
                  different course had been pursued and no debateable issue had been raised on the Address.
                  
                  
                  That course on the present occasion seems to 
                  
                  have been impossible, and I must frankly admit that I was fully prepared for an amendment
                  from the hon. gentlemen. I may say 
                  
                  with a great deal ot pride and pleasure that I 
                  
                  feel I can approach this question under circumstances upon which I may congratulate
                  
                  
                  the government, the Legislature. and the 
                  
                  country. As far as I am individually 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  concerned, I need hardly tell the house that 
                  
                  from the first hour I felt it necessary as a public 
                  
                  man to give my earnest consideration to public 
                  
                  matters—from the first hour I felt it due to the 
                  
                  people, the management ot whose affairs I had 
                  
                  undertaken, to express my opinion on public 
                  
                  questions—I have never hesitated openly, at all 
                  
                  times and everywhere, to avow my deep and 
                  
                  settled conviction that in a union of British 
                  
                  North America lay the only great future for 
                  
                  any portion of these provinces. True to these 
                  
                  principles, whether in power or in opposition, 
                  
                  to the best of my ability I advocated and sustained these views,—I pledged myself
                  to my 
                  
                  countrymen, at all times and under all circumstances, that whatever power and influence
                  
                  
                  they might place in my hands, I would feel bound 
                  
                  to use for the purpose of advancing the interests, elevating the character and promoting
                  the 
                  
                  security of our common country, by a union of 
                  
                  British North America. Believing as I do that 
                  
                  not only the most marked prosperity would 
                  
                  have followed, but that the only security and 
                  
                  guarantee for the continued possession of British principles in any portion of British
                  North 
                  
                  America, was involved in that great question, I 
                  
                  have never hesitated to declare my opinion that 
                  
                  it would have been wise on the part of Nova 
                  
                  Scotia to have entered into that union under the 
                  
                  terms propounded by the Quebec scheme.— 
                  
                  There were many gentleman around me, however—many for whom I entertain great respect—who
                  felt that better terms should be obtained for the Maritime Provinces than were 
                  
                  contained in that scheme. To-day I stand 
                  
                  in the proud position of being able to claim confidently the support of gentlemen
                  who were unable to give it to me before because whilst their 
                  
                  general principles were in favour of Union they 
                  did not consider that the scheme of Union devised at Quebec gave to these provinces
                  all the advantages and consideration to which they are 
                  entitled. The position, therefore, that we occupy on this question is one of no little
                  pride 
                  for we are able to say that we have not only obtained everything which was granted
                  at Quebec, but that very important concessions have 
                  been made in the arrangements that are now 
                  being consummated, and that all these alterations are most favorable to the interests
                  of these 
                  Maritime Provinces The narrow range taken 
                  by those gentlemen who have opened up this 
                  question precludes me from dwelling on this 
                  particular feature of it, but an occasion will offer itself later for discussing the
                  scheme in all 
                  its bearings Then gentlemen in this house 
                  will have ample opportunity to place before the 
                  legislature and country an expression of their 
                  opinion on this great question. It will be therefore only necessary that I should
                  briefly call the 
                  attention of the house to the position that this 
                  question now assumes, and deal with the constitutional point which has been raised
                  by gentlemen on the opposite side. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  I need not remind the House that no man 
                  
                  can pretend that this is one of the occasions on 
                  
                  which a great surprise is attempted. No man 
                  
                  can contend that this question of a Union of 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  British North America is not one to which the 
                  
                  public mind and consideration of all classes of 
                  
                  the intelligent people of this country have not 
                  
                  been again and again turned, until it has become perfectly familiar to all. I need
                  not go 
                  
                  into any lengthy review of circumstances that 
                  
                  took place on this question, but twenty-five years 
                  
                  ago the whole subject, in all its bearings, was 
                  
                  placed in the report of Lord Durham before the 
                  
                  people of British America and of the whole British Empire, and attracted an amount
                  of attention that few other great public measures 
                  
                  ever received. We might claim the proud distinction that this question  has been examined
                  
                  
                  and discussed within these walls with an acumen and ability that did the greatest
                  honor to 
                  
                  gentlemen on both sides. If there was a section of British America ready to come to
                  the 
                  
                  consideration of this question and pass upon it 
                  
                  intelligently, it was the Province of Nova Scotia, familiarized as the people have
                  been with it 
                  
                  in all its aspects. So far as I am personally 
                  
                  concerned I have never hesitated to express my 
                  
                  sentiments whether as a member of the Government or Opposition. When opposed to the
                  administration of the day in 1860 I was invited 
                  
                  to deliver a lecture at the Mechanics' Institute 
                  
                  of St. John, and I was permitted the privilege of choosing the subject upon which
                  I would 
                  
                  address them. I took that occasion to proclaim 
                  
                  not only to the people of my own province 
                  
                  but of British North America, that all the power and influence that I might ever obtain
                  should 
                  
                  be exerted to accomplish and consummate the 
                  
                  great scheme of British American Union which 
                  
                  had been so ably discussed in previous days. I 
                  
                  returned from the neighbouring province, and 
                  
                  what was the first thing that met me ? Some 
                  
                  gentlemen opposite who perhaps felt that the 
                  
                  eulogiums which that address had received 
                  
                  might make me a little giddy, immediately 
                  
                  declared that after all there was nothing novel in these sentiments, that 
                  
                  they were borrowed from my political 
                  
                  opponents, and that the gentleman then at 
                  
                  their head, Mr Howe, was one of the originators—as I have never denied he was— 
                  
                  of this great scheme of Union. I felt 
                  
                  there was no originality in my views, 
                  
                  that all I had endeavored to do was to give 
                  
                  favor and substance to the question—to pledge 
                  
                  myself as a public man, devoted to the service 
                  
                  of the country, to promote the consummation of 
                  
                  this great scheme. I came back to this city, 
                  
                  and at one of the largest assemblages that I 
                  
                  have ever addressed, repeated these sentiments and pledged myself, in the face of
                  my 
                  
                  country, that, it entrusted with power by the 
                  
                  people of this Province, I would use that power 
                  
                  as energetically as I was able for the accomplishment of this great project. I went
                  up, then, 
                  
                  into the neighbouring counties of Hants and 
                  
                  Kings, and Colchester. and there proclaimed 
                  
                  plainly to the people of this country my sentiments on the same great question; I
                  did so by 
                  
                  public invitation, and delivered these sentiments 
                  
                  amid the united plaudits of men of all shades of 
                  
                  politics. Everywhere I was proud to find that 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  this great scheme which I was advocating was 
                  
                  received as an open question, upon which all 
                  
                  political parties could co-operate. After I had 
                  
                  thus re-opened this question, the leader of the 
                  
                  government to which I was opposed, recommitted himself to the principles of British
                  Colonial 
                  
                  Union, by moving a series of resolutions on the 
                  
                  subject. These resolutions originating with the 
                  
                  government, of which he was the leader, broadly stated that so manifold and so great
                  were the 
                  
                  advantages that would result from union, that 
                  
                  the government asked for power from this 
                  
                  House to have a conference for the purpose of 
                  
                  taking it up and placing it in a position so that 
                  
                  it might receive the solemn ratification of the 
                  
                  Legislature of this country. Consistent with 
                  
                  the views I had always entertained, I gave my 
                  
                  earnest co-operation to the government on this 
                  
                  question, and a similar course was pursued by 
                  
                  every Conservative sitting on the benches with 
                  
                  me. The Lieutenant Governor was requested 
                  
                  to appeal to the British Parliament on this question. Mr. Howe having received the
                  authority 
                  
                  from the Imperial Government immediately, 
                  
                  under his own hand, urged upon Canada and 
                  
                  the other British North American Colonies the 
                  
                  importance of dealing with the question. In a 
                  
                  statesmanlike spirit he pointed out to them that 
                  
                  there was only one mode in which this question 
                  
                  could be dealt with—that the only true constitutional course was not to refer it to
                  the 
                  
                  people at the polls, but to the Legislature. I challenge the gentlemen opposite, instead
                  of indulging in mere empty declamation addressed not to members inside this 
                  
                  House but to uninformed persons outside—to 
                  
                  point out a single authority here or elsewhere, 
                  
                  in this province or in the mother country whence 
                  
                  we obtained our system of government, that has 
                  
                  ever propounded such a principle as the resolution lays down ; and when they are able
                  to do 
                  
                  so, I shall be prepared to extend to this 
                  
                  amendment an amount of consideration that 
                  
                  I feel now it is not entitled to. In Mr. Howe's 
                  
                  letter, under his own hand, he says there is only 
                  
                  one way of dealing with the matter—that there 
                  
                  should be a conference of the different provinces to arrange a scheme of Union—but
                  there 
                  
                  is not one word said about submitting the question to the people, but on the contrary,
                  he proposed that it should be disposed of by the legislature. 
                  
                  Mr. Howe, sustained by all his colleagues in 
                  
                  the government, claimed for the Legislature of 
                  
                  this country the right of dealing with this question—a principle which the hon. member
                  for 
                  
                  Yarmouth has himself just acknowledged as the 
                  
                  correct one, though it conflicts with the position 
                  
                  he has taken in seconding the present amendment. That hon. gentleman said that he
                  was 
                  
                  imbued with a love for British principles. He 
                  
                  was one of the earliest and strongest advocates 
                  
                  of colonial responibility, and true to his principles what has he to-day told you?
                  "The 
                     
                     Legislature represents the people." That is the 
                  
                  reason when Mr. Young led that side of the 
                  
                  House—when Mr. Howe led the government 
                  
                  of the Liberal party,—when Mr. Johnston, on 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  this side, led the Conservative party,  each and 
                  
                  all, recognizing the fact that we enjoyed 
                  
                  responsible government in all its completeness, 
                  
                  on every occasion when this question came up, 
                  
                  maintained the indisputable right of the Legislature to deal with this question. When
                  Mr. 
                  
                  Howe and Mr. Killam were demanding that 
                  
                  the people should have the principle of responsible government extended to them, they
                  affirmed the responsibility of the Ministry to the 
                  
                  people—that the Ministry should have the people's representatives to sustain them,
                  and that 
                  
                  whilst they had that support, they were quali 
                  
                  fied to discharge all the duties of legislation in 
                  
                  such a manner as they thought was consistent 
                  
                  with the interests of the country. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  The hon. member (Mr. Killam) has referred 
                  
                  to Napoleon, and given us the only precedent 
                  
                  that these gentlemen can adduce in support of 
                  
                  their position. The hon. member for Guysboro', a gentleman of legal attainments—who
                  
                  
                  has sat in the chair you, sir, now occupy.—who 
                  
                  has, therefore, held the highest constitutional 
                  
                  position in this Legislature, was obliged to sit 
                  
                  down without having been able, from the whole 
                  
                  range of constitutional history, to bring forward 
                  
                  a single example in support of his course. The 
                  
                  hon. member for Yarmouth, who has himself a 
                  
                  pretty wide acquaintance with the constitutional system we enjoy, did at last find
                  a precedent; but was it under the constitutional 
                  
                  principles which it is our pride and glory to 
                  
                  have received from Englang ? Did he find it 
                  
                  in Great Britain or in any portion of her colonial empire ? No; but he had to travel
                  to despotic France, where the universal popular franchise had placed the country under
                  the heel of 
                  
                  the most iron despotism that ever existed. All 
                  
                  the public men in this house, Liberal or Conservative, have placed on record their
                  deliberate sentiment that the Legislature of the country is the place where this question
                  should be 
                  
                  discussed and decided. But that is not all. The 
                  
                  Duke of Newcastle was appealed to, and what 
                  
                  did he reply ? You have only to go to the journals and you will find him endorsing
                  the same 
                  
                  principles. Mr. Cardwell was subsequently appealed to, and you see that gentleman
                  himself 
                  
                  taking the same view of the question, and declaring the right of the Legislature to
                  deal with 
                  
                  it. The present Marquis of Normanby, reflecting the views of the government of the
                  day as 
                  
                  he does now his own, embodied in a state 
                  
                  paper his opinion that the Legislature is the 
                  
                  proper place to deal with the matter. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  It was stated that if the British Government 
                  
                  had only proper information on this question— 
                  
                  if that dark cloud which prevented them from 
                  
                  seeing the real facts of the case was only blown 
                  
                  away, they would sustain the views of gentlemen opposite. Well all that has been done
                  ; I 
                  
                  hold in my hand the statement of the late Colonial Secretary, the Earl of Carnarvon,
                  who submitted this question with great ability to the 
                  
                  House of Lords. But first let me ask when 
                  
                  these gentlemen were advocating responsible 
                  
                  government in this country, what did they tell 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  us they were going to give us? The institutions of Republican America? No. The despotism
                  of France ? No. They said that they 
                  
                  intended giving us Responsible Government, 
                  
                  the British system of government, so that the 
                  
                  people of this country might be governed in 
                  
                  precisely the same manner that the people of 
                  
                  the British Islands are governed Who are the 
                  
                  best interpreters of the British system ? When 
                  
                  gentlemen raise an issue upon constitutional 
                  
                  practice, they should sustain their course by reference to the authorities of that
                  country from 
                  
                  which we take our system. Now this whole 
                  
                  question was put fully before the statesmen and 
                  
                  people of England by a gentleman second in 
                  
                  ability to none in this country—who is one of 
                  
                  those who can almost make the worse appear 
                  
                  the better reason—who can put his views before 
                  
                  the public in the most conclusive manner that it 
                  
                  is possible to place them. Now when this gentleman had exhausted months in enunciating
                  
                  
                  his views, before the statesmen of the mother 
                  
                  country, what did Lord Carnarvon say after full 
                  
                  consideration of the whole question? Lord 
                  
                  Carnarvon said:— 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     " Then the noble lord has founded an argument on 
                     
                     the franchise of Nova Scotia, but really if this House 
                     
                     is to go into all the intricacies and details of colonial 
                     
                     government there can be no end to the matter. Such 
                     
                     a course would have the effect of raising questions on 
                     
                     every clause of the bill. The House has simply to ascertain who are the constituted
                     authorities of Nova 
                     
                     Scotia, whom we are bound to listen to and whose 
                     
                     opinion we are bound to accept. Now, what have 
                     
                     they said? In 1861 the then parliament of Nova 
                     
                     Scotia passed a resolution in favour of confederation 
                     
                     in general terms. In 1863 that Parliament was dissolved and a fresh Parliament was
                     elected and is in 
                     
                     existence at the present moment. Well, it was only 
                     
                     in April last that that Parliament came to a distinct 
                     
                     resolution in favour of confederation—a resolution as 
                     
                     distinct as words could express it. That resolution 
                     
                     empowered certain gentlemen to proceed on their behalf to  England to negotiate with
                     her Majesty's Government. These accredited envoys were accordingly 
                     
                     sent and the terms have been negotiated and embodied in this measure. It appears to
                     me that it is not 
                     
                     competent for us to look behind that vote of the Nova Scotia Parliament, and to inquire
                     what other parties may be in the colony and under what circumstances the colonial
                     local authorities and legislatures 
                     
                     were elected. If responsible government means anything, it means this—that you not
                     only give to a colony free institutions and enable the inhabitants to 
                     
                     elect their own Parliament, but you also undertake, 
                     
                     in matters of colonial policy, to deal only with that 
                     
                     colony through the legally constituted authorities. 
                     
                     Any other view of the case would lead us to endless 
                     difficulty." 
                     
                   
               
               
               
               
                  This is the opinion of a gentleman to whom the 
                  
                  whole press, irrespective of party, has awarded 
                  
                  unqualified praise for the able and perspicuous 
                  
                  manner in which he dealt with this question. 
                  
                  In fact, we have the opinion of the statesmen 
                  
                  and press of all parties in England in support of 
                  
                  the principle—that our Legislature has the authority of legislating on all matters
                  touching 
                  
                  the constitution for this country save where it 
                  
                  conflicts with Imperial interests. I confess I 
                  
                  feel mortified when we enjoyed the great principles of responsible government—when
                  these 
                  
                  principles had been worked out so as to reflect 
                  
                  the highest credit upon all parties—when Nova 
                  
                  Scotia had advanced to that position of intelligence that she could be entrusted with
                  the ma
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  nagement of her own affairs; I felt mortified, I 
                  
                  say, to see the very men who had laid claims to 
                  having given us this constitutional system,going 
                  to the foot of the Throne and attempting to 
                  prove, as far as all the evidence they could gather would prove, that this province
                  was unfit 
                  for the government she enjoys—that we were in 
                  that condition of corruption and ignorance that 
                  the Parliament of the country could not be 
                  trusted to discharge thoae legislative duties 
                  which had been entrusted to them under our 
                  constitutional system. If these petitions had 
                  any effect—if the British Government had accepted such statements as true, they would
                  have 
                  been greatly misled, and would have estimated 
                  the character, education, and intelligence of this 
                  country at a very low standard indeed. We 
                  can point with pride to evidence that under the 
                  institutions we have enjoyed the people have 
                  chosen the best men they have as their representatives, whose acts may challenge the
                  closest 
                  scrutiny of the mother country and of the world. 
                  If it had been shown that the action of the Legislature had been unworthy of the confidence
                  
                  of Parliament and Government of England,then 
                  we would have occupied a position that would 
                  indeed be most humiliating to us all. But we 
                  have another construction of this resolution besides Lord Carnarvon's. Here is the
                  declaration not of the late Colonial Secretary only but 
                  the Queen's Speech, in which the United Cabinet of England give expression to their
                  sentiments :-" Resolutions in favor of a more intimate union of the provinces of Canada,
                  Nova 
                  Scotia and New Brunswick have been passed 
                  by their several Legislatures, and delegates duly 
                     authorized and representing all classes of colonial 
                     party and opinion have concurred in the conditions upon which such a union may be effected 
                  in accordance with their wishes. A bill will be 
                  submitted to you which by the consolidation of 
                  colonial interests and resources will give 
                  strength to the sovereign Provinces as members 
                  of the same empire, and animated by feelings of 
                  loyalty to the same sovereign." I have given 
                  you the authority of the leading men of this 
                  country — of the Colonial Minister, of 
                  the British Ministry — and in addition 
                  you have the authority of the Houses 
                  of Peers and Commons of Great Britain. 
                  Let detraction assail that parliament as it may, 
                  the hon. member may endeavour to throw 
                  odium upon it, but there is not a freeman 
                  through the length and breadth of the British 
                  Empire who can fail to admire and respect the 
                  body which, amid the convulsions that have 
                  shaken nations from centre to circumference, 
                  has maintained the proud pre-eminence of England. It does not become a colonial public
                  
                  man, at a time when the Parliament of Great 
                  Britain is attracting the admiration of the 
                  civilized world — when it is the great 
                  object of other nations to assimilate 
                  their institutions as nearly as possible to 
                  those of the mother country, to attempt to 
                  cast obloquy upon such a body. But they require no defence at my hands; the proud
                  position that they occupy—the eminent character of 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  the statesmen who are called upon to discharge 
                  
                  the functions of legislation in that country need 
                  
                  no eulogium from me. It is with pride that I am 
                  
                  able to state that having sat in the one House 
                  
                  and stood in the other, I listened to the discussions on this great question, and
                  not only the 
                  
                  constitutional points which are at issue, but the 
                  
                  true character of this union were clearly and ably 
                  
                  propounded by the Parliament and statesmen of 
                  
                  Great Britain. Having had both sides of 
                  
                  this question before them they were able to render such a verdict as they never gave
                  before on 
                  
                  a great public measure. We are able to stand 
                  
                  here and claim that the friends of Union were 
                  
                  sustained by the friends of British institutions 
                  
                  everywhere—that they have had the support and 
                  
                  co-operation of the friends of the colonial empire in the Parliament of England ;
                  and what 
                  
                  do you find to-day ? In the " Morning Chronicle"—the organ of the gentlemen opposite—
                  
                  
                  the debate on the question has been given in 
                  
                  full, as I am happy to see, and what 
                  
                  do you find in the House and Commons? 
                  
                  You find this striking fact to which I wish to 
                  
                  call the attention of gentlemen opposite who 
                  
                  have said that this Union would weaken the 
                  
                  connection with the Crown, that the statesmen of Great Britain, without regard to
                  party, 
                  
                  Liberal and Conservative, Whig and Tory, 
                  
                  united in one common acclaim that the colonies would not only be rendered more prosperous,
                  but that the ties that now bind them to the 
                  
                  Empire would be strengthened. The very few 
                  
                  members who could be induced by gentlemen 
                  
                  opposite to reflect their sentiments did so on the 
                  
                  ground that the colonies were a burthen, and 
                  
                  that the sooner they were got rid of the better. 
                  
                  These are the views of Mr. Bright who complained that if this Union was accomplished
                  the 
                  
                  result would be to burthen the Empire with the 
                  
                  defence of these provinces and what position did 
                  
                  Mr. Ayrton take? He would not commit himself 
                  
                  so far as to oppose Union, but what he complained of was that millions of British
                  money 
                  
                  were to be expended in connection with a great 
                  
                  highway between this provmce and Canada. 
                  
                  Thus we find the British Government, and all 
                  
                  statesmen who value the colonies as one of the 
                  
                  great sources of the importance and influence 
                  
                  of Great Britain among nations arrayed in support of colonial Union, whilst in opposition
                  to 
                  
                  to this great scheme we find only the men who 
                  
                  wish to get rid of the colonies altogether. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  I must for a single instant call the attention 
                  
                  of gentlemen opposite to the fact that they are 
                  
                  bound by their own recorded votes in 1864 to 
                  
                  vote against this resolution. I had the honour 
                  
                  to move in the session of that year a resolution 
                  
                  authorizing a conference to make a much more 
                  
                  radical change than it is now intended to make 
                  
                  in our constitution. It proposed a scheme of 
                  
                  Union that would have merged our local institutions altogether—the Parliament and
                  capital 
                  
                  would have been transferred to another place. 
                  
                  When I moved that resolution to appoint delegates for a Conference to bring about
                  such a result, was there a man to raise an objection that 
                  
                  as it would change the constitution, there should 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  be an appeal to the people. Where were the 
                  
                  gentlemen who now raise these objections when 
                  
                  I declared that this House had the power to do 
                  
                  what I have said? There was no one then to 
                  
                  raise an objection to such a course. They bound 
                  
                  themselves to the constitutional principle that 
                  
                  this Parliament had the undoubted power, and 
                  
                  right to change the constitution of the country 
                  
                  without an appeal to the people at the polls. 
                  
                  But I can give them another illustration how 
                  
                  lately it is that they have discovered this new 
                  
                  constitutional doctrine—that it is not constitutional for the peoples' representatives,
                  here in 
                  
                  Parliament assembled, to discharge what they 
                  
                  believe to be a solemn duty to the country. 
                  
                  Can it be possible that these gentlemen have 
                  
                  forgotten that in 1863, just before an appeal to 
                  
                  the people, the Government of the day 
                  
                  brought forward one of the most radical 
                  
                  changes, a change in the constitution   which, I 
                  
                  have no hesitation in saying, would revolutionized England it propounded there to-morrow.
                  
                  
                  This measure was to strike down one-third of 
                  
                  the electoral body who were about to go to the 
                  
                  polls. When we, on this side of the House, 
                  
                  urged specific grounds that it had already been 
                  
                  proved that the entire majority which they had 
                  
                  obtained at the last general election had been 
                  
                  subsequently lost at the polls, that they were 
                  
                  only nominally the government, and that therefore they ought not to propose so radical
                  a 
                  
                  change before going to the people, we heard no 
                  
                  such pathetic speeches from gentlemen opposite 
                  
                  as we have had to-day, intended to have effect 
                  
                  in the back settlements of the country ? What 
                  
                  had the hon. member for Guysborough 
                  
                  then to say in favour of the people who 
                  
                  were so ruthlessly to be deprived of their privileges. He stood here then one of the
                  
                  
                  most violent and declamatory supporters of 
                  
                  the Government, declaring that they would 
                  
                  carry this measure, that they had the constitutional right to do so. Then he backed
                  up 
                  
                  his leader, Mr. Howe, who had put on record 
                  
                  the most unequivocal testimony of the views 
                  
                  of himself and the Liberal party on this 
                  
                  question. It will be remembered that some 
                  
                  26,000 electors, rather taken aback at this 
                  
                  attempt to change the election law, appealed 
                  
                  to the Lieutenant Governor asking for a dissolution of the Legislature, and what was
                  the 
                  
                  answer? That the petitioners had a right to be 
                  
                  heard? That such constitutional changes 
                  
                  must be preceded by an appeal to the people? 
                  
                  No! I hold in my hand the declaration of 
                  
                  the leader of the Government stating that it 
                  
                  was the undoubted right of "Parliament to 
                  
                  pass a law in defiance of the people. Yet the 
                  
                  gentlemen who voted in support of such declarations are here to-day to express a mock
                  
                  
                  sympathy which the people will never give 
                  
                  them credit for. Mr Howe said:—"I am not 
                  
                  one of those who shrink from the performance 
                  
                  of a duty. I have never yet backed down 
                  
                  through outside pressure, or waived my 
                  
                  sense of right because of popular influence." 
                  
                  He goes on to say:—"The hon. gentleman 
                  
                  complained that no answer was ever returned to the petitions for a dissolution. Had
                  
                  
                  they been sent through the Provincial Secretary, the proper official channel of communi
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  cation between the people and the Lieutenant 
                  
                  Governor, no doubt they would have received 
                  
                  an answer; but they pursued a different 
                  
                  course—the petitions were sent by a deputation, and handed in through a spokesman
                  to 
                  
                  His Excellency." These gentlemen, it appears, considered that it was a sufficient
                  reason 
                  
                  to treat the petition of 26,000 electors of this 
                  
                  Province with profound contempt because they 
                  
                  did not come through the Provincial Secretary. 
                  
                  Suppose, now, we say to these same gentleman 
                  
                  that if they had sent in their petitions through 
                  
                  the proper channel there would have been a 
                  
                  dissolution long ago. (Laughter.) But they 
                  
                  have never condescended to bring these documents under our notice, and I think I know
                  
                  
                  the reason why, they did not send them through 
                  
                  the Provincial Secretary's Office 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  I was surprised at the contempt with which 
                  
                  the hon. member asserted that this measure 
                  
                  was actually being passed in Parliament 
                  
                  without these petitions having ever been read 
                  
                  All I can say is that I sat in the House of 
                  
                  Commons the night before I left England, and, 
                  
                  up to that time, these petitions had never even 
                  
                  been seen. I think when I put this and that 
                  
                  together I may be able to venture a pretty 
                  
                  good calculation why they had not been seen, 
                  
                  and why they had not come through the Provincial Secretary's office. We know that
                  all 
                  
                  that men could do was done, by appeals in the 
                  
                  press and by public lectures and a paid organization, to excite and stir up disapproval
                  that 
                  
                  never existed and does not exist now. Yet 
                  
                  despite all the exertions that were made for 
                  
                  many months; they could not get 10,000 petitioners to put their names on this table.
                  When I 
                  
                  know this fact—that after years of excitement 
                  
                  and misrepresentation they were unable to get 
                  
                  anything but a response of so feeble a character—I can understand why these 30,000
                  petitioners were not subjected to the scrutinizing 
                  
                  eye of the Provincial Secretary or of any other 
                  
                  person who would be able to verify whether 
                  
                  there was any substance in these petitions or 
                  
                  not. The reason why the Parliament of England had not seen these petitions down to
                  the 
                  
                  hour of the second reading of the bill in Commons, was probably that they were of
                  a character that would have excluded them from being 
                  
                  presented. I give this to the hon. gentleman 
                  
                  opposite as the excuse why these petitions 
                  
                  have not been presented, although that apology 
                  
                  is not demanded at my hands. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  But I must continue my quotations from the 
                  
                  constitutional maxims of the late Government 
                  
                  Mr. Howe said: "But, sir, if they received no 
                  
                  reply in words, they were completely answered otherwise. The constituents of Digby
                  unconstitutioually asked for a dissolution; we 
                  
                  answered the prayer of the petition by constructing a valuable wharf in that locality." 
                  
                  (Laughter.) Well, I think we have also constructed a few wharves and bridges in that
                  
                  
                  community and elsewhere. (Renewed Laughter). Again Mr. Howe continued: "As fast 
                  
                  as possible I am running a road through Inverness, that the life-blood of that county
                  
                  
                  may flow on through a healthy channel." 
                  
                  (Great laughter.) "Queen's has received a 
                  
                  grant for deepening Liverpool harbour. To the 
                  
                  counties through which the railway passes 
                  
                  my answer is the balance in the treasury to 
                  
                  the credit of the railway, at the close of the 
                  
                  present year. To all the counties I reply, 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  the general increase in your revenue—the general provincial prosperity—the peace and
                  order that have reigned everywhere—these are 
                  
                  the bases of my reply to this charge." 'Well, I 
                  
                  think we can claim public support on much 
                  
                  stronger grounds than those adduced by the 
                  
                  hon. gentleman. "But I tell the hon gentleman that even in a legal point of 
                  view he is wrong. I defy him to put 
                  his finger on an instance where Parliament has been dissolved at the instigation of
                  petitions. A dissolution involves the 
                  exercise of the extreme power of the Crown, 
                  and should rarely, if ever, be resorted to, 
                  except under necessity most urgent and overpowering. * * * Let me now refer to the
                  
                  opinion of a very eminent divine, who has 
                  marked the operation of universal suffrage, 
                  and hear what this gentleman says on that 
                  subject. After describing the gigantic evils 
                  of the system, he says: 'What then is to be 
                  done? Universal suffrage is the law of our 
                  land. Every one knows that this law cannot 
                  be repealed, for I repeat it the masses must 
                  vote its repeal; and this, of course, they will 
                  not do. There are many indications that of 
                  late years, through the vast flood of immigration, through the infamous conduct of
                  
                  designing demagogues, through the increase 
                  of intemperance, these degraded masses are 
                  gaining in number and in power.' We have 
                  the power, if we possess the will, to repeal 
                  this law—to strike down once and forever 
                  the evil—to relieve ourselves from the charge 
                  of being the only British colony, save Australia, governed by universal suffrage—to
                  
                  purge our constitution, and purify our electoral system. Let no man at this crisis
                  hesitate or falter, but manfully and honestly 
                  perform his duty, to himself and to his country. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  This is the doctrine that suited gentlemen 
                  
                  in 1863,—they endorsed it to the fullest extent they possibly could. In 1863 to make
                  a 
                  
                  radical change in the constitution was right 
                  
                  and proper—to ignore the voice of the 26,000 petitioners was right and proper—to 
                  
                  force a law upon the statute book, to prevent a large body of the people passing no.
                  
                  
                  on their acts, was fully sustained by these 
                  
                  gentlemen, I am glad that I cannot include 
                  
                  the hon member for Yarmouth in these observations, l'or he was then on this side of
                  
                  
                  the House. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  I was a good deal astonished when I heard 
                  
                  the hon. member state that the delegates had 
                  
                  exceeded the powers which they had received 
                  
                  from the house in dealing with this question. I 
                  
                  must confess I have had occasion sometimes to 
                  
                  find fault with gentlemen opposite for their very 
                  
                  short memories, but I was hardly prepared for 
                  
                  a statement like that. Is there a man in this 
                  
                  house with the exception of the mover of this 
                  
                  amendment who does not know that this question was debated in this parliament plainly
                  upon 
                  
                  the basis that under that resolution the delegates were to be empowered to go to the
                  Imperial authorities and obtain the passage of an 
                  
                  Act without future reference to this Legislature? Is there a single man on either
                  side who 
                  
                  will endorse the statement made by the mover, 
                  
                  that the delegates exceded their authority in the 
                  
                  slightest degree, or that the whole question was 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  not argued and discussed upon the basis that we 
                  
                  were, to deal with it finally ; but I do not require to tax the memory of gentlemen
                  opposite, 
                  
                  for I shall refer them to the journals of the 
                  
                  House, and prove by the resolution moved by 
                  
                  the hon. member himself, that he knew that the 
                  
                  action taken here last session was the consummation of the measure as far as this
                  Legislature 
                  
                  was concerned. In the amendment moved by 
                  
                  the hon. member for Guysboro', we read : 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
                  
                  
                  
                  
                     "Therefore resolved, That it is the opinion and 
                     
                     sense of the House that the Government and Legislature of this Province should be
                     no parties to the 
                        
                        consummation of any scheme tor the Confederation 
                     
                     of the British North American Provinces and Colonies, until an opportunity shall have
                     been first afforded to the several constituencies of the Province at 
                     
                     large, to express their views and opinions thereon 
                     
                     in a constitutional manner at the polls."  
                     
                     
                   
               
               
               
               
                  It was, therefore, perfectly plain that the 
                  
                  delegates were to go to England and arrange 
                  
                  with the Imperial Government a plan of Union 
                  
                  which would become the law through the Imperial Parliament, and yet in the face of
                  this 
                  
                  well known fact we have heard the hon gentleman declaring that the delegates had exceeded
                  
                  
                  their authority. The debate in this House, 
                  
                  the discussion in the press, all go to show that 
                  
                  it was everywhere known that the delegates 
                  
                  were to finally arrange a scheme of Union. I 
                  
                  have already read to you the Queen's Speech, 
                  
                  declaring that we came clothed with the most 
                  
                  thorough constitutional power to deal with this 
                  
                  question, and that too finally. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  New Brunswick, said the hon. gentleman, has 
                  
                  been appealed to twice. Why is it that the 
                  
                  people of Nova Scotia have not been allowed to 
                  
                  express their opinions even once ? At Quebec 
                  
                  it was agreed that the scheme of Union should 
                  
                  be submitted to the several Parliaments. It 
                  
                  was the last session of the Legislature of New 
                  
                  Brunswick, and the Government found that they 
                  
                  had not a majority to carry the measure. They 
                  
                  appealed to the people, who decided against the 
                  
                  Government, and therefore all action in relation 
                  
                  to the measure in this house was prevented, for 
                  
                  every man felt that whatever were his opinions 
                  
                  on the subject no Union was practicable unless 
                  
                  New Brunswick came into it. Action was accordingly suspended in this province until
                  a 
                  
                  change should take place in New Brunswick. 
                  
                  Subsequently the people there, having had the 
                  
                  question fully explained to them, reversed their 
                  
                  former verdict and gave a large majority of 
                  
                  Union. When it became obvious here that 
                  
                  New Brunswick would concur we submitted the 
                  
                  question to this House. I ask the hon mover 
                  
                  of the resolution as well as its seconder if either 
                  
                  of them will venture to say to the House that 
                  
                  the position of the government in this Legislature is in the slightest degree analogous
                  to 
                  
                  that of the government of New Brunswick. 
                  
                  They were called upon to take action upon the 
                  
                  measure, and believed that by an appeal to the 
                  
                  country they would be sustained, and consequently they made that appeal. Subsequently
                  
                  
                  it was found that the tide of public sentiment 
                  
                  had turned—the explanations which were made 
                  
                  on this question had shown the people that they 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  had been egregiously deceived before, and accordingly the moment they were allowed
                  to 
                  
                  speak again they returned an overwhelming 
                  
                  majority in favor of the great principle of union. 
                  
                  The hon. member said that the Government 
                  
                  had pressed this matter here with "indecent 
                  
                  haste." Does he not know that this scheme of 
                  
                  Union was decided upon at Quebec in 1864 ? 
                  
                  It was a subject of agitation for nearly two 
                  
                  years, down to 1866, but more than that, are 
                  
                  not these same gentlemen who now charge " indecent haste" against us the men who,
                  session 
                  
                  after session, not only two years ago, but last winter as well, taunted the government
                  and myself 
                  
                  with cowardice, with failing in what was our 
                  
                  duty to the house and country—for not having 
                  
                  had the manliness to come forward and submit 
                  
                  the question to the members of this Legislature. 
                  
                  But when we knew that the time had come, 
                  
                  when we could deal with this question not as a 
                  
                  hypothetical measure, but one on which the 
                  
                  House could take action in consequence of the 
                  
                  change of sentiment in New Brunswick in favor 
                  
                  of Union—when we found that the duty we 
                  
                  owed to the House and country demanded that 
                  
                  we should bring the question before the Legislature, to be dealt with in the proper
                  constitutional manner, what did these gentlemen say 
                  
                  and do? When they saw that they had mis— 
                  
                  calculated the intelligence and patriotism of this 
                  
                  House and the public sentiment of this country 
                  
                  —that instead of having the overwhelming majority that they had deluded themselves
                  into 
                  
                  believing they had, they were in an insignificant 
                  
                  minority; then these gentlemen suddenly dis 
                  
                  covered that we were not open to the charge of 
                  cowardice and want of statesmanship, but that 
                  we were pressing the matter with "indecent 
                  haste." (Applause) 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  The hon. member for Yarmouth asked why 
                  
                  we did not submit the question to the people as 
                  
                  they did in New Brunswick. No man, sir, in 
                  
                  the history of constitutional legislation ever 
                  
                  heard of so unstatesmanlike a course as a government dissolving the parliament in
                  which they 
                  
                  had a clear, undoubted majority to carry a measure which they believed would promote
                  the general prosperity of the country. I do not appeal 
                  
                  only to gentlemen who are ready to support the
                  
                  government on the question—not to gentlemen 
                  
                  in opposition, who are ready to sacrifice the 
                  
                  best interests of party at the shrine of patriotism 
                  
                  —who think more of their country than of subserving the ends of party—but I ask the
                  opponents of this measure not to give their votes in 
                  
                  favour of such a resolution, when its advocates 
                  
                  are obliged to confess that they have not in the 
                  
                  whole range of constitutional government a single precedent in favour of the course
                  they have 
                  
                  chosen to pursue. But what does the hon. member for Yarmouth say about the sat election
                  in 
                  
                  New Brunswick? " A very few votes did it, I 
                  
                  would not be surprized if New Brunswick now 
                  
                  went against it." Then the hon. member has 
                  
                  himself given us a very clear idea of the futility 
                  
                  of appeals to the people. He has seen New 
                  
                  Brunswick one day giving its decision in favour of, and on the next against, Union.
                  
                  
                  
               
               
               
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                  But certain gentlemen deputized by some one 
                  
                  or other—I do not think there will be anybody 
                  hereafter ready to father the act—have written 
                  a remonstrance against Union to the Colonial 
                  Secretary. If ever there was a libel on the British constitutional system—if responsible
                  government was ever brought down to the very depths 
                  degradation, as far as it was in the power of certain parties to put it there, it
                  was when the 
                  three unauthorized men, two of whom had been 
                  rejected by the people at the polls, presented 
                  themselves at the foot of the throne, and told 
                  the Imperial Government that notwithstanding 
                  our system of government the people are too 
                  ignorant, and the Parliament is too corrupt to 
                  be entrusted with the free institutions we enjoy, 
                  and asked that they should be considered the 
                  true constitutional authorities to whom 
                  the Government and Parliament of the 
                  mother country should pay respect. I know 
                  not who authorized this delegation, but I was 
                  not a little surprized to find these gentlemen 
                  who presented themselves with the authority of 
                  some one or other, asking the Government and 
                  Parliament of England to accept them as our 
                  representatives and to ignore the voice of the 
                  government and legislature of this country, but 
                  especially was I astonished to find them putting 
                  their names to a state paper in which they declared that the position of the people
                  of New 
                  Brunswick—where the very thing they are 
                  are now asking for  has been done—is 
                  perfectly contemptible and compared the verdict they have given at the polls to that
                  of a 
                  brow-beaten jury under Jeffreys. Yet these 
                  same gentlemen, professing to represent the 
                  sentiments of the people of Nova Scotia, ask the 
                  Government of England to allow the people to 
                  express their opinions at the polls—on the 
                  ground that they had such an appeal in New 
                  Brunswick.   
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  The hon. gentleman has taken exception to a 
                  
                  statement made by Mr. Watkin. I admit freely 
                  
                  that that statement was too strong, and to some 
                  
                  extent inaccurate. I think, however, the hon. 
                  
                  member for East Halifax who was one of the 
                  
                  deputation will admit that it is not a very easy 
                  
                  matter to get gentlemen constantly occupied 
                  
                  with questions of great national importance immediately touching their own country
                  to understand all the "ins and outs" of our colonial discussions and struggles. I
                  am glad, however, to 
                  
                  be able to fully acquit myself of having misled, 
                  
                  any one on this question in England. I took 
                  
                  the liberty of placing in the hands of Mr. Watkin and every other member of the House
                  of 
                  
                  Commons an authentic statement of my own, 
                  
                  and in that document I have shown accurately 
                  
                  as I contend every step that has been taken in 
                  
                  the progress of this questiton. I may state to 
                  
                  the House, and I do it in all sincerity, that from 
                  
                  the first I have never entertained but one opinion, and that is, the intelligent sentiment
                  of the 
                  
                  people of this country is in favour of Union.  I 
                  
                  do not say that I have ever felt it would 
                  
                  be a wise experiment to appeal to the people on  this question; that would be an en
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  tirely unprecedented proceeding; but I know 
                  
                  enough of appeals to the people to be 
                  
                  aware that it is quite possible for the public sentiment to be in favour of a measure,
                  
                  
                  and yet for this measure to be unsuccessful 
                  
                  when put to the people. I believe a public man 
                  
                  is bound in the advocacy of public measures to 
                  
                  study as far as possible what is required to promote the public good, and to go as
                  far as he can 
                  
                  in his public legislation as the public sentiment 
                  
                  will sustain him. I have been, perhaps, as 
                  
                  strong a party man as any in this country, but 
                  
                  I am proud to be able to say, that anxious as I 
                  
                  have been to promote the views of party, much 
                  
                  as I believe in the existence of parties in the 
                  
                  state, and the advantage of having a strong opposition as well as government,—anxious
                  as I 
                  
                  am to serve the partv from whom I have received such unqualified support and co-operation—I
                  am able to say that I have regarded 
                  
                  one thing as of paramount importance, and that 
                  
                  is, the interests of my country. It is not the 
                  
                  first occasion on which as a public man, standing in the responsible position in which
                  it has 
                  
                  pleased the people of this Province to place me, 
                  
                  I have brought forward measures and advocated them with all the zeal and earnestness
                  that I 
                  
                  could bring to their discussion, although at the 
                  
                  same time I believed them to be as fatal to the 
                  
                  interests of my party as it was possible for any 
                  
                  measures to be. I need not tell the House what 
                  
                  was the sentiment of the country in regard to 
                  
                  taxation for the support of schools. I need not 
                  
                  tell the House how perfectly I was satisfied 
                  
                  that, in the ranks of the party which sustained 
                  
                  me throughout this country, there was a 
                  
                  very large body of people who would not only 
                  
                  resist, but resent such a change in the law as 
                  
                  would impose a large burthen upon the people 
                  
                  for the support of the schools. But I came to 
                  
                  this table, and imposed such a burthen, under 
                  
                  the conviction that it was my duty so to do, for 
                  
                  my conscience told me that that measure was 
                  
                  imperatively required to promote the best interests of the country at large ; but
                  although I    
                  
                  expected to produce temporary dissatisfaction, 
                  
                  I never had a doubt what the result would be 
                  
                  after the people had had abundant opportunity 
                  
                  of testing the merits of the law.   
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  I believe that the intelligent sentiment of the 
                  
                  country is in favour of this Union, but then the 
                  
                  mode by which it might be defeated would be 
                  this : Whilst the opponents of the measure in 
                  the ranks of the conservative party would withdraw their confidence and support from
                  the government, gentlemen who oppose the measure, 
                  but prefer another party in this province, would 
                  combine with the former, for the purpose of defeating the men in power. How could
                  I have 
                  any doubt as to the intelligent sentiment of this 
                  country ? Long ago it was acknowledged as a 
                  question removed from party—one which public men, irrespective of party considerations,
                  
                  should unite in promoting. When it was found 
                  that the government must under all circumstances stand or fall by this question, then
                  for the 
                  first time were public men who had been them
                  
                  
                  
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                  selves most enthusiastic advocates of Union prepared to take advantage of the opportunity
                  thus 
                  
                  afforded.—I will not say an unfair advantage, 
                  
                  though I would be justified in saying so—for 
                  
                  party purposes. Dcspite such facts, however, 
                  
                  I feel convinced that not only the great body of 
                  
                  the conservative party, but the majority of the 
                  
                  liberals of this country—the standard bearers of 
                  
                  which have given this question a support which 
                  
                  does infinite credit to their patriotism—are just 
                  
                  as warmly in favour of Union as when Mr. 
                  Howe was its most able exponent. I do not deny that there has been a large and formidable
                  
                  opposition to this measure, but I believe when 
                  the people look at it without reference to other 
                  public questions or any considerations of a party character, when it is no longer
                  sub judice but 
                  become the law of the land, the constitution of 
                  the country for weal or woe, all classes will 
                  combine to sustain it, and the opponents of 
                  Union themselves will feel that there is but one 
                  course to pursue if they wish to lay claim to the 
                  character of statesmen and patriots—and that is 
                  to work out our new institutions in a manner 
                  that will be most conducive to the interests of 
                  the province at large. (Cheers.) 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  The hon. member referred to the London 
                  
                  Times as a great authority, but no person knows 
                  
                  better than he does that that journal has been 
                  
                  regarded as antagonistic to the interests of British America, and that it has always
                  favoured 
                  
                  the Australian colonies. It will be also remembered that it has taken the same view
                  of this 
                  
                  question as has been taken by the opponents of 
                  
                  Union in Parliament, that these colonies are a 
                  
                  burthen to the mother country. The great objection, in fact, which it has urged against
                  this 
                  
                  scheme is, that instead of dissevering the connection. Union has bound us for ever
                  to the 
                  
                  Crown, and that the British Government are 
                  
                  committed to the guarantee for the construction of the Intercolonial Railway. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Reference has been made to the defenceless position of Canada. Now I have always regarded
                  
                  
                  —and I am glad to find that every man who has 
                  
                  had an opportunity of studying the question has 
                  
                  coincided with me—it would be utterly impossible to retain Nova Scotia unless Canada
                  
                  and New Brunswick were retained. New Brunswick is especially defenseless, and if that
                  province and Canada should fall into the possession 
                  of a foreign power there is no British statesman 
                  who will undertake to say that the security of this 
                  province could be maintained. Therefore this 
                  is not a question whether one province is more 
                  defenseless than another, but whether the combination and the consolidation of the
                  whole will 
                  not give increased security to all. The gentlemen who havc been deputed to advocate
                  the 
                  views of the opponents of Union have placed on 
                  record what I suppose are the opinions of the 
                  gentlemen they represent. The organ of the 
                  party led by Mr. Howe was the first to propound 
                  the principle that British subjects in this country 
                  were bound to pay pound for pound for the defence of the empire with every other portion
                  of 
                  the British Empire. When the " Morning 
                  Chronicle" was wrested from the hands of its 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  former editor because he had become the friend 
                  
                  of British America Union, and the hon. members for East Halifax became its editor
                  as well 
                  
                  as proprietor, the first thing he did was to put on 
                  
                  record what their scheme was for the defence of 
                  
                  the country. If the hon. member says " Leave 
                  
                  well enough alone," I will turn him to the record of the leader of the Anti-Union
                  party. The 
                  
                  hon. gentleman (Mr. Howe) has given in the 
                  
                  most authentic form his opinion that the province has in the present condition of
                  affairs " no 
                  
                  security for peace." A number of articles which 
                  
                  are now known to be written by Mr. Howe were 
                  
                  published in the hon. member's paper, and in 
                  
                  these the declaration was made, in so many 
                  
                  words, that their scheme for the defence 
                  
                  of the Empire was to levy a tax upon the 
                  
                  people equal to that borne by the rest of the Empire. The hon. member for East Halifax,
                  in a 
                  
                  pamphlet which he wrote as the representative 
                  
                  of the Anti-Union party has put it on record that 
                  
                  he is prepared to pay "pound for pound with 
                  
                  the Canadians." I ask, then, the hon. mover of 
                  
                  this resolution with the fact before him that the 
                  leader of the Anti-Union party has propounded 
                  a scheme—a scheme endorsed by the other Anti- 
                  Union delegates—that would absorb the entire 
                  revenue of this province for defence alone; does 
                  it lie in his mouth or of any opponent of Union 
                  to charge us with having attempted to increase the 
                  burthens of the country in relation to defence. 
                  Not only is this scheme the only means by which 
                  British America can remain British America— 
                  by which we can retain the free British institutions which it is our pride and happiness
                  to 
                  possess—but it opens up to these countries an 
                  avenue to prosperity such as was never offered to 
                  any people before. Therefore I say this measure of Union instead of increasing the
                  
                  burthens of these people is effected upon terms 
                  which are going to continue us under the aegis of 
                  Great Britain—to preserve to us her free institutions, to give us the largest amount
                  proaperity; 
                  all this, too, with an immunity from burthens 
                  that might well make us the envy of the world. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  Look across the borders, and what do you see 
                  
                  the allies of our opponents doing? We see the 
                  
                  Governor of Maine in his annual message declaring his hostility to Confederation,
                  and asserting that the friends of the United States in 
                  
                  these provinces were doing their utmost to prevent the consummation of that scheme.
                  Is there 
                  
                  a man in this country who can be so blind as not 
                  
                  to see what that means? Can any one fail to see 
                  
                  the opinion the sagacious statesmen of the United Statcs entertain of the future which
                  is in 
                  
                  store for British America under the scheme of 
                  
                  Confederation. The statesmen-of that country 
                  
                  are bound to do all in their power to promote 
                  
                  the stability of the institutions which they possess, but I am not less able to draw
                  my deduction from the course they are pursuing. In the 
                  
                  report of the Parliament of Maine, founded upon 
                  
                  that portion of the Governor's Address which 
                  
                  refers to Confederation, you find a contrast 
                  
                  drawn between British America and the United 
                  
                  States. They tell you that the population of 
                  
                  New Brunswick is increasing three times as 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  rapidly as that of Maine, and look with disfavor 
                  
                  upon a scheme which is going to increase the 
                  
                  prosperity of that province as well as of all British America. They see that this
                  scheme will 
                  
                  give an increase of power and influence to these 
                  
                  provinces—will bring into them a large amount 
                  
                  of capital and wealth—will enable them to enjoy 
                  
                  an unparalleled amount of prosperity, free from 
                  
                  that heavy load of taxation which is now weighing down the people of the United States.
                  It is 
                  
                  for reasons like these that the statesmen of the 
                  
                  United States look with a jealous eye upon the 
                  
                  establishment of institutions that are going to 
                  
                  strengthen the connection that now binds us to 
                  
                  the parent state and to make us great and powerful. I ask gentlemen opposite to weigh
                  carefully the opinions which American statesmen express in respect to this measure
                  of Confederation, and ask themselves whether the are justified in (pursuing a policy
                  antagonistic to the 
                  
                  establishment of institutions which are not only 
                  
                  going to make us prosperous but to place us in a 
                  
                  position that will excite the envy of one of the 
                  
                  greatest nations of the world. (Cheers.) 
                  
                  
               
               
                
            
            
            
            
               
               
               
                  MONDAY, March 18. 
                  
                  
                  
               
               
               EVENING SESSION. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  The house resumed at 7.30. 
                  
                  The adjourned debate was resumed. 
                  
                  
               
                
            
            
            
            
               
               
               
               
                  Speech of Mr. Annand. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. ANNAND said — I have been for 
                  
                  twenty-five years a member of the Legislature 
                  
                  —so long a time that, though not very far advanced in years I have become the father
                  
                  
                  of the house, but long as my experience has 
                  
                  been, I never until the present occasion witnessed an evening session on the second
                  day 
                  
                  of our meeting. But I take this to be all of a 
                  
                  piece with the arbitrary proceedings by which 
                  
                  Confederation is to be forced upon the people 
                  
                  of this Province—time is not to be given for 
                  
                  deliberation and free discussion. We have 
                  
                  been told that the season is advanced, and 
                  
                  that the revenue laws will soon expire, but 
                  
                  certainly we had a right to expect that upon 
                  
                  so important a subject as changing the constitution of the Province, at least a week's
                  debate would have been allowed us without seriously interfering with the public business.
                  
                  
                  The revenue bills last year were brought down 
                  
                  on the 28th of March, and we could therefore 
                  
                  have been allowed ten days for this question, 
                  
                  and still have left as much time as was deemed necessary last year for arranging the
                  tariff. 
                  
                  The Provincial secretary has said that he 
                  
                  stood here last year as the defender of the 
                  
                  Quebec scheme—that he was a consistent defender of that scheme—but I was surprised
                  to 
                  
                  hear him tell us that its terms were inferior to 
                  
                  those which he and his colleagues at Westminster Palace Hotel have obtained for us.
                  I 
                  
                  was surprised at that statement, because after 
                  
                  a calm examination I have come to the deliberate conclusion that those terms are far
                  
                  
                  worse. Let me remind the House of the remarks made by the gentleman who made overtures;
                  to the Government to bring down a resolution for the appointment of delegates. He
                  
                  
                  said he rose to condemn the Quebec scheme 
                  
                  —that he desired to see it destroyed, and a bet
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  ter one framed. Another gentleman, representing a distant constituency, made similar
                  
                  
                  observations, expressing his pleasure that the 
                  
                  Government had abandoned the measure 
                  
                  adopted at the Quebec Conference. But what 
                  
                  do we find in the English press, and the speech 
                  
                  of Mr. Adderly in the House of Commons? 
                  
                  That the bill introduced by the Earl of Carnarvon, at the instance of the Delegates,
                  is in substance the Quebee scheme. Whom then, are 
                  
                  we to credit, the hon. Provincial Secretary, 
                  
                  or the Under Secretary for the Colonies? And 
                  
                  then we have the bill, which speaks for itself. 
                  
                  The delegates were charged under the resolution of this house to arrange a scheme
                  of union 
                  
                  with the Imperial Government which would 
                  
                  effectually ensure just provision for the rights 
                  
                  and interests of this Province—far better terms 
                  
                  than those embodied in the Quebec scheme, 
                  
                  which the Government had virtually abandoned. 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  We are told that "better terms" have been 
                  
                  obtained, and I ask the Provincial Secretary 
                  
                  to point out in what respect the new Confederation scheme is an improvement on the
                  old 
                  
                  one. Why confine himself to a bald declaration upon a subject of such magnitude and
                  
                  
                  deep interest to the people of this country? I 
                  
                  join issue with the hon. leader of the Government on this point. I contend that the
                  terms 
                  
                  obtained by the delegates, instead of being 
                  
                  better, are far worse than those embodied in 
                  
                  the resolutions adopted at Quebec. Under 
                  
                  the Quebec scheme our local legislature would 
                  
                  have had the right to impose an export duty 
                  
                  on coal, from which a large revenue might, if 
                  
                  it was thought proper, be raised and applied 
                  
                  to the local wants of the country. That right 
                  
                  has been taken away from us, and transferred  
                  
                  to the Government of Canada, who are clothed  
                  
                  with the power of taxing as they please one of 
                  
                  the most valuable exports of the Province. It 
                  
                  is clear, then, that in respect to our minerals, 
                  
                  worse instead of better terms have been the 
                  
                  result of the negotiations on the other side of 
                  
                  the water. Then there is the much discussed 
                  
                  subject of the Intercolonial Railway, estimated to cost four millions of pounds sterling,
                  
                  
                  which it was said would be guaranteed by the 
                  
                  British Government if the Provinces consented to unite in a Confederation. But, as
                  I understand the present position of affairs, the 
                  
                  Imperial authorities will not venture to ask 
                  
                  Parliament to guarantee more than three millions—a sum sufficient to carry the road
                  into 
                  
                  the midst of a howling wilderness, leaving it 
                  
                  there, and benefitting no one but those charged 
                  
                  with the expenditure of the money. But then 
                  
                  I will be told that the financial terms are better—that much larger grants for local
                  purposes have been secured under the new arrangement than the old one. The delegates
                  will 
                  
                  say, " have we not procured $60,000 a year for 
                  
                  defraying the expenses of your local government, over and above the 80 cents a head
                  you 
                  
                  were to receive under the Quebec scheme;— 
                  
                  and have we not also made an arrangement 
                  
                  by which you will continue to receive your 80 
                  
                  cents a head until your population is 400,000?" 
                  
                  This is quite true, but the concession will be 
                  
                  estimated at its true worth when I inform the 
                  
                  house of the large increase of revenue which 
                  
                  has taken place in the Province since the adop- 4 
                  
                  tion of the resolutions of the Quebec Conference. These were framed in 1864, and the
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                  nancial arrangement which was to give us 80 
                  
                  cents a head was based upon the revenues of 
                  
                  1863. Since that time our customs revenues 
                  
                  alone has increased $351,822—considerably 
                  
                  more than the annual subsidy; and yet we are 
                  
                  expected to be thankful when we are promised an additional $60,000 a year—about one-
                  
                  
                  third of the increase of the revenue for a single year, 1866, under our present low
                  tariff.— 
                  
                  The terms may seem better, but are they such 
                  
                  as we were entitled to receive—such terms, as 
                  
                  with a full knowledge of the facts, the delegates were bound to secure for the people
                  they 
                  
                  professed to represent? $60,000 a year; what 
                  
                  is it? By a single enactment the general government could levy a larger export duty
                  on 
                  
                  coal every year. The increased taxes from 
                  
                  the advalorem duties alone of a Canadian tariff, 50 per cent above ours. will add
                  nearly 
                  
                  $300,000 a year to our taxation. Talk of taxes! 
                  
                  Our people are for the first time in their lives 
                  
                  about to realize what taxation is under this 
                  
                  precious scheme of confederation. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  A great mistake was made in seeking to 
                  
                  change the institutions of these Provinces, under which they have all grown to be
                  free, happy and prosperous. They would not leave 
                  
                  well enough alone,—and they must take the 
                  
                  consequences of their folly in seeking to establish a new nation, which can only exist
                  upon 
                  
                  the forbearance of a powerful and exacting 
                  
                  neighbor. We are told that the country is 
                  
                  familiar with the question. Yes, with the 
                  
                  question in the abstract. It has been discussed here from time to time. some favoring
                  a 
                  
                  Legislative and others a Federal Union, but 
                  
                  no one having a clear and definite view of the 
                  
                  subject. Mr. Howe, who I heartily wish was 
                  
                  here to defend himself, has been charged with 
                  
                  being the originator of Confederation. I deny 
                  
                  the truth of that assertion, and challenge an investigation of that gentleman's speeches
                  and 
                  
                  writings for a single instance in which he advocated such a scheme as that now pressed
                  
                  
                  upon our acceptance. My friend has written 
                  
                  and said much on the subject of Union; he has 
                  
                  discussed the subject in its various phases, 
                  
                  but he raised objections to them all—to a Legislative Union, to a Federal Union, to
                  union 
                  
                  with the United States—and only gave in his 
                  
                  adhesion to the larger and more comprehensive scheme known as the "Organization of
                  the 
                  
                  Empire." Mr. Howe never favored any scheme 
                  
                  of Union that would have destroyed the autonomy of this Province, and certainly never
                  
                  
                  would have been a party to any measure that 
                  
                  would have handed over the revenues and resources of Nova Scotia to Canada, or any
                  other 
                  
                  country. The Provincial Secretary says that 
                  
                  he (Prov. Secy.) held  meetings in various 
                  
                  parts of the country, where he lectured upon 
                  Union. And if he did, what then? He does 
                  not pretend to say that he advocated a Confederation scheme like the present, but
                  like 
                  Mr. Howe, whom he appears to have a mania 
                  for imitating, he was in favor of Union of some 
                  sort, without any very clear or definite views 
                  upon the subject. But suppose Mr. Howe 
                  had written all his life long in favour of Union, 
                  or even in favour of Confederation, what then? 
                  We are here to decide for ourselves and for the 
                  people of this country, and we are bound to 
                  examine and see whether it is for their benefit 
                  or not to reject this or any other measure, but, 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  above all, to claim their right to be heard before 
                  
                  any change is made. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  The Pro Secy. referred to the suffrage question, and told us the late Government introduced
                  a bill to disfranchise a large body of 
                  
                  the electors. They did. But the difference 
                  
                  between that case and the present is: they did 
                  
                  not succeed in passing the measure into law, 
                  
                  and going to the elections their action was condemned, and they paid the penalty.
                  The people returned a majority in favor of universal 
                  
                  suffrage—they rebuked the action of the late 
                  
                  Government, but what chance have the electors of reversing the Confederation policy
                  
                  
                  and bringing back their constitution, when the 
                  
                  Bill before the Imperial Parliament becomes 
                  
                  law? The hon. member knows that they have 
                  
                  none, and that the cases are not parallel. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  He has asked us to show a precedent for the 
                  
                  course which we urge. It is not for him to 
                  
                  ask that of us, but we demand of him where 
                  
                  in the history of the world any such attempt 
                  
                  has been made to deprive a people of their 
                  
                  government and institutions against their 
                  
                  will—without even the Parliament being allowed to review the measure. Such a policy
                  
                  
                  may be tried with impunity in a province like 
                  
                  Nova Scotia with its 350,000 people, but could 
                  
                  it be safely tried in the Canadas with their 
                  
                  two and a half millions? Could it be tried in 
                  
                  England? Suppose any ministry in the mother country were to bring forward a measure
                  
                  
                  for the annexation of the British Islands to 
                  
                  Austria or any other any other kingdom— 
                  
                  could it be done without a revolution? We 
                  
                  are too weak to rebel if we had the disposition, but it is a fair principle that what
                  could 
                  
                  not be done constitutionally in England 
                  
                  should not be done here. It is said that the 
                  
                  resolution of 1861 introduced by Mr. Howe 
                  
                  committed the late Government and every 
                  
                  member of the house to the support of Union. 
                  
                  That resolution merely declared that the subject of union had been frequently discussed,
                  
                  
                  and that the time had come when it should 
                  
                  be set at rest. That resolution speaks for 
                  
                  itself—it bound no gentleman to support 
                  
                  any particular form of union, or union at  
                  
                  all; much less a scheme prepared three years 
                  
                  afterwards at Quebec containing provisions 
                  
                  which no one could have dreamed of in 1861. 
                  
                  That resolution led to a conference in 1862 at 
                  
                  at which were present delegates from Nova 
                  
                  Scotia and New Brunswick, and the whole 
                  
                  Executive Council of Canada. I was one of 
                  
                  the delegates, and was present when the question of colonial union was discussed.
                  And what 
                  
                  was the decision? This House had asked that 
                  
                  the question should be " set at rest." and the 
                  
                  answer they received was that it was premature 
                  
                  even to discuss the question. The delegates 
                  
                  considered it premature to consider the subject 
                  
                  until the Intercolonial Railway had been built, 
                  
                  and free trade between the Provinces established. 
                  
                  That then is the answer to the argument drawn 
                  
                  from the resolution of 1861 which, it should be 
                  
                  remembered, was not even debated in this 
                  
                  House. The Prov. Sec. spent nearly an hour 
                  
                  in enlarging upon the rights and powers of 
                  
                  Parliament. No one disputes the power of 
                  
                  Parliament.—what we were discussing is not 
                  
                  the power, but the sound and wise exercise of 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  that power by a body elected for very different 
                  
                  purposes—elected to carry on the business of 
                  
                  the country under the existing constitution. 
                  
                  We are told by high authority that Parliament 
                  
                  can do anything but make a man a woman, and 
                  
                  while we may admit that it might be tight on 
                  
                  the part of the Imperial Parliament to override 
                  
                  the constitution of a Colony were a great State 
                  
                  necessity to arise, we have no right under the 
                  
                  limited powers which we possess to transfer to a 
                  
                  body of men assembled on the other side of the 
                  
                  water our legislative functions. This fact 
                  
                  must be borne in mind; that this measure is 
                  
                  not the result of the action of the Parliament 
                  
                  of the country; the Quebec scheme and the 
                  
                  bill before the Imperial Parliament have never 
                  
                  been before us, and I deny the right of any 
                  
                  body of delegates, however appointed, to make 
                  
                  laws for us. We are told that there never was 
                  
                  such an attempt to violate the principles of 
                  
                  Responsible Government as was manifested by 
                  
                  the minority in this house endeavoring to 
                  
                  counteract the action of last winter by which 
                  
                  the delegates were clothed with power to prepare a scheme. My idea of Responsible
                  Government is that the Administration shall be 
                  
                  carried on according to the well understood 
                  
                  wishes of the people, and I hold that the gentlemen who crossed the sea as delegates
                  knew 
                  
                  that the people were opposed to any such change 
                  
                  as they proposed to make; that they were arbitrarily seeking to change the Constitution
                  
                  
                  contrary to the well known sentiments of the 
                  
                  people. The Prov. Secretary calls upon us to 
                  
                  show him an example in the history of the 
                  
                  world where a statesman was idiotic enough  to 
                  
                  dissolve the house when he had a majority at 
                  
                  his back. We do not ask a dissolution. Let 
                  
                  the duration of the house run down, and the 
                  
                  question come before the people in its natural 
                  
                  course. But was not Mr. Tilley, who had 
                  
                  such a majority, "idiotic" enough to dissolve 
                  
                  the house in New Brunswick? We all know that 
                  
                  he did, and the consequence was that he and 
                  
                  his Government were defeated at the polls. His 
                  
                  was the manly course, for which he fairly earned the respect of the people of that
                  Province. 
                  
                  This may not be a very inviting precedent, but 
                  
                  that is the answer I give to the honorable gentleman. If there can be any doubt about
                  the 
                  
                  force of this precedent, I will give another: It 
                  
                  was asked in the Canadian Parliament whether 
                  
                  Confederation should not be placed before the 
                  
                  country, and Mr. Brown, the President of the 
                  
                  Council, said that if there could be any doubt 
                  
                  about the feelings of the people, then, decidedly, 
                  
                  the question should be referred to them. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  One reason why this Union is to be forced 
                  
                  upon us maybe gathered from a conversation 
                  
                  between two Canadian gentlemen who were 
                  
                  present on the opening of the present Session. 
                  
                  When that part of the Lieutenant Governor's 
                  
                  Speech was read which referred to the large increase of our revenue, one remarked
                  to the other 
                  
                  " Good for us." It is " good for us," says Canada, to get these Maritime Provinces,
                  with their 
                  
                  surplus revenues, with unlimited power to tax 
                  them as we wish. The Provincial Secretary 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  asked why the petitions of the people against 
                  
                  Confederation had not been forwarded through 
                  
                  the Lieutenant Governor I will tell him. In 
                  
                  the first place, these petitions were addressed 
                  
                  to the House of Commons. The Provincial 
                  
                  Secretary made a complaint of their not being 
                  
                  sent through him, but I was not aware before 
                  
                  that it was customary to send such petitions 
                  
                  through the Secretary of the Colony. Petitions to the Queen are in a different position
                  ; 
                  
                  but the hon. gentleman is incorrect in intimating that he never saw the petitions,
                  for 
                  
                  one of them was forwarded to the Lieutenant 
                  
                  Governor, and there were other proceedings 
                  
                  that passed through his office to which he 
                  
                  has not referred There were petitions and 
                  
                  addresses from eight counties. There were 
                  
                  addresses asking the members from six counties to resign their seats, because they
                  voted 
                  
                  for Confederation; and let me say that if such 
                  
                  proceedings had taken place in England—proceedings affecting the entire majority in
                  the 
                  
                  House of Commons, no ministry dare attempt 
                  
                  to resist such an appeal. The hon. gentleman 
                  
                  spoke about the subject being familiar with 
                  
                  prominent men in England; let me ask how 
                  
                  many members of the houses of Lords and Commons read " The case of the Maritime Provinces,"
                  as put before them by the People's Delegates? I use the term " People's Delegates"
                  because we did represent the people; for though 
                  
                  a tyrannical majority may rob us of our constitution, yet there is an overwhelming
                  majority 
                  
                  behind us who denounce the arbitrary manner 
                  
                  in which the measure was pressed. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  What where the facts in connection with the 
                  
                  Confederation Bill? A more indecent proceeding never took place, even in this house
                  than 
                  
                  was witnessed in the House of Lords on the 
                  
                  third reading of that bill. When delay was 
                  
                  urged by one peer, although the house had been 
                  
                  comparatively full at the commencement of his 
                  
                  speech, there were but nine members on the 
                  
                  benches when he ceased speaking. That is an 
                  
                  illustration of the wicked indifference to the 
                  
                  wishes and interests of the people of this Province which has prevailed throughout.
                  My 
                  
                  hon and learned friend from Guysboro' very 
                  
                  justly said, this afternoon, that more interest 
                  
                  would have been excited by a bill imposing a 
                  
                  tax on dogs than by a measure involving the future welfare of these British North
                  American 
                  
                  Colonies. I was in England for some time, and 
                  
                  therefore have had a pretty good opportunity 
                  
                  of guaging the public mind, and I know that the 
                  
                  recent yacht race across the Atlantic, at which 
                  
                  everybody laughed on this side of the water, excited the greatest attention in England,
                  and produced articles in the press which were nauseating to read, while the ablest
                  writers of the day 
                  
                  were unable to interest the public in a measure 
                  
                  affecting the interests and welfare of these loyal 
                  
                  Provinces, and involving perhaps their separation from the mother country. What took
                  
                  
                  place in the House of Commons? The bill was 
                  
                  sent down one day, and for the first time in the 
                  
                  history of that house, it was read a second time 
                  
                  on the following day. Before the papers illust
                  
                  
                  
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                  rating the subject had been presented—before 
                  
                  our " case was printed—the indecent spectacle 
                  
                  was witnessed of the bill being hurried through 
                  
                  a second reading. I give that has a reason why 
                  
                  the petitions were not laid before the house. 
                  
                  The bill was brought down, as it were, yesterday, and before they could be presented
                  on the 
                  
                  following day, it was read a second time 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  I can fancy I understand the influences that 
                  
                  were brought to bear upon some members of 
                  
                  Parliament, among whom was the late Under- 
                  
                  Secretary of State for the Colonies There 
                  
                  was evidently a feeling that it was necessary 
                  
                  to smuggle the measure through. But although there was hot haste as to the 
                  
                  second reading, time was afterwards given 
                  
                  for consideration, and I am not without hope 
                  
                  that there may yet be manly spirit enough to 
                  
                  send the scheme back to the people of Nova 
                  
                  Scotia. That second reading was carried by 
                  
                  declarations that we had no grievance at all, 
                  
                  that the subject had been before the people at 
                  
                  the last general election, that the opposition 
                  
                  was factious and did not represent popular opinion. One very significant fact has
                  already transpired; last year it was said that the Queen desired Confederation—that
                  the Secretary for the 
                  
                  Colonies, the Parliament, press, and people of 
                  
                  England all desired it, but now, when the responsibility is thrown on the British
                  Cabinet, what 
                  
                  do they say? Her Majesty says that the bill has 
                  
                  been prepared in conformity with the wishes of 
                  
                  the delegates from the various provinces. 
                  
                  And what does the act itself say? It says it 
                  
                  is introduced because the delegates desire the 
                  
                  measure. Her Majesty's Ministers, fearing 
                  
                  that trouble may come—that the new nationality 
                  
                  may come to grief—shake themselves clear of 
                  
                  the responsibility, and can hereafter point to the 
                  
                  bill and say—" This is no measure of ours ; we 
                  
                  merely gave the force of law to the enactment, 
                  
                  which you desired." I was amused to hear the 
                  
                  Provincial Secretary say that the friends of union 
                  
                  were sustained by the friends of British connection in England. I have had opportunities
                  unsurpassed by any Colonist of ascertaining the 
                  
                  feelings of gentlemen connected with the press 
                  
                  of England, and I here declare that 
                  
                  the leading opinion of the governing 
                  
                  classes of England is, that these colonies 
                  
                  should be made into an independent nation, 
                  
                  and they would gladly have separated Canada from the Maritime Provinces, but they
                  
                  
                  felt that a maritime frontage was essential for 
                  
                  her existence. The opinion, I repeat, of the 
                  
                  friends of Confederation is that we should be 
                  
                  united, and put in such a position that by a 
                  
                  single stroke of the pen we may be separated 
                  
                  from the parent state. Examine that bill and 
                  
                  you will find that the only link of connection which it will leave us is the Governor
                  
                  
                  General who is to receive out of our revenues 
                  
                  a salary of $50,000 a year. Do you suppose 
                  
                  that when we are charged with our foreign 
                  
                  relations; as was intimated by Mr. Adderly, 
                  
                  when we have our own army to maintain; for 
                  
                  the troops are evidently to be withdrawn un
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  less we are prepared to pay them, when 
                  
                  the appointment of the Governor General by 
                  
                  the Crown is the only connecting link, can it be 
                  
                  supposed that it will be long before we have our 
                  
                  President? You cannot engraft this mongrel 
                  
                  system upon monarchical institutions,—when 
                  
                  you change you must become a Republic, and 
                  
                  the game played by the American Gov.ernment in Mexico will be played over 
                  
                  again here. I look upon this scheme as 
                  
                  the first step towards a separation from 
                  
                  the Mother Country, and I prophecy that ten 
                  
                  years will not pass before this new nationality 
                  
                  will drift into the United States. Look how 
                  
                  easily the thing can be done—just as easily as the 
                  
                  Confederation scheme was accomplished.— 
                  
                  Several gentlemen were appointed, at the instance of this house, to attend a conference
                  
                  
                  in Prince Edward Island to mature a scheme 
                  
                  for the union of the Maritime Provinces. 
                  
                  The Canadians came down and spirited them 
                  
                  to Quebec where, for reasons best known to 
                  
                  themselves, they all agreed to go in for the 
                  
                  larger union. They afterwards by some 
                  
                  means succeeded in securing the assent of 
                  
                  New Brunswick and of this house, though 
                  
                  not of the people, and they are now about to 
                  
                  consummate it. Can it be supposed that the 
                  
                  Americans will not imitate an example which 
                  
                  has been so successful, and that by the 
                  
                  exercise of that acute diplomacy for which 
                  
                  they are famous, and by the expenditure of 
                  
                  money, when it is required, sweep the whole 
                  
                  concern into the American Union? The Canadians are just the men, and the Confederate
                  
                  
                  Government will be just the place to try such 
                  
                  an experiment. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  I have ever felt that the moment we ceased to be separate provinces, and came under
                  the dominion of Canada, her fate must 
                  
                  be our fate, and we must be dragged wherever she might be pleased to carry us. Many
                  
                  
                  leading men in England entertain that opinion strongly, and tell us that it would
                  be 
                  
                  our advantage to join the American Union 
                  
                  There is another reason given why we should 
                  
                  confederate and be got rid of, and it has 
                  
                  force from an English point of view. It is 
                  
                  said in England, " as long as we maintain 
                  
                  these colonies, particularly Canada, with its 
                  
                  long and defenseless frontier, so long must 
                  
                  we have a running sore ; but if we were rid 
                  
                  of them, we would talk to the Americans in 
                  
                  a different style; we would not submit to 
                  
                  insult and indignity which we are now 
                  
                  obliged to do from day to day." But we 
                  
                  are told that the friends of British connection are the friends of union. What, for
                  example, says the Times? In a recent number that great organ of public opinion 
                  
                  wished Confederation God-speed, and trusted it would soon eventuate in the independence
                  of these colonies. But those supporting our opinions took a larger and more 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  statesmanlike view ; they held that when 
                  
                  England loses the Maritime Provinces she 
                  
                  begins to go down in the scale of nations— 
                  
                  that when we are gone, with our 60,000 seamen, our mercantile marine, our noble harbours
                  and fisheries, and our inexhaustible 
                  
                  coalfields, then America becomes the first 
                  
                  naval power in the world, and England 
                  
                  must stand second on the list. I share in 
                  
                  these opinions ; and it is because I see in 
                  
                  Confederation the beginning of England's 
                  
                  decline and fall, that I have been heartily 
                  
                  opposed to the measure. It has been said 
                  
                  that the people's delegates in England manifested great contempt for responsible government.
                  Sir, I hold that those who have 
                  
                  had entrusted to them the petitions of well 
                  
                  nigh 40,000 of the people—equal to about 
                  
                  two-thirds of our adult male population— 
                  
                  that they are not unauthorized men, and 
                  
                  that the occupy a prouder position than 
                  
                  the gentlemen sent by the Government, but 
                  
                  not representing the opinions of the country. There are members sitting here who 
                  
                  know that they, are here contrary to the 
                  
                  wishes of their constituents—who have 
                  
                  been requested to resign their seats, and 
                  
                  who, if they had the spirit of Englishmen, would not for a day occupy their 
                  
                  present positions. We were so far authorized as to be recognized as duly accredited
                  delegates at the Colonial Office, where we were 
                  
                  treated with deference and respect. Mr. Bright 
                  
                  on this subject holds the. language of every 
                  
                  Englishman I ever met, he says, "give the 
                  
                  people of these Colonies the right to speak, 
                  
                  let them decide their own future, let them, 
                  
                  if they please, confederate, join the American States, or remain as they are in "connection
                  with this country." Then we are 
                  
                  told that the, intelligence of the country 
                  
                  was in favour of Union. I should like the 
                  
                  Prov. Secy. to tell us how he arrives at that 
                  
                  conclusion. When'at the last General Election his party were returned with a large
                  majority he boasted that there was a large and 
                  
                  enlightened public opinion in the country, 
                  
                  but when he looks around the benches of 
                  
                  this house and knows that not one of 
                  
                  its members dare face a constituency, 
                  
                  I ask him, how he can make the 
                  
                  statement that the intelligence of the country is in favor of this measure ? I have
                  been 
                  
                  taunted with saying that Nova Scotians 
                  
                  should pay pound for pound with the Canadians towards the common defence. I believe
                  that the time has come when our people cannot escape paying a reasonable contribution,
                  and the question has come-to this : 
                  
                  shall we pay to the mother country, which 
                  
                  with all her armaments of war is able to de
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  fend us, or to a new nationality without an 
                  
                  army or a navy,or the means to create either? 
                  
                  Or on the other hand shall we pay to the 
                  
                  United States?- We must pay such reasonable sum for our defence as we can afford,
                  
                  
                  and I ask if there is any doubt that England would grant us by far the most favourable
                  terms. I assert boldly that these Maritime 
                  
                  Provinces must belong to a great maritime 
                  
                  power— the first in the world, if they are 
                  
                  allowed—and if not to the second, they cannot and will not be governed by Canada.
                  
                  
                  Our position forbids that we should be governed by a people living .in the Canadian
                  
                  
                  backwoods. We must, therefore, belong 
                  
                  either to the mother country or to the United States, and if we are once separated
                  
                  
                  from England there is no question about 
                  
                  our final destination. And while on this 
                  
                  point I may remark that in Great Britain I 
                  
                  encountered highly intelligent gentlemen 
                  
                  to whom I spoke of the strong feeling of loyalty and attachment which prevails among
                  us, and the earnest desire 
                  
                  of the people to remain forever connected 
                  
                  with England, to equally share her dangers and glories,—I said we would like to 
                  
                  be treated as a county of England, as Kent 
                  
                  or Surrey, sending members to the British 
                  
                  Parliament, and whatwas the reply: " Well 
                  
                  your sentiments do you honour, but we cannot reciprocate them ; we care little or
                  nothing a out you." We have been asked 
                  
                  for a precedent for the course that we urge, 
                  
                  and I in return have asked gentlemen opposite to show us a precedent for their action.
                  
                  
                  It is an unfortunate precedent that I can 
                  
                  point to for their conduct—that of legislating Ireland into the Union contrary 
                  to the sentiments of the people. But 
                  even for that measure a majority of the Irish 
                  Parliament was obtained,—by what means 
                  we know; By what means the majority was 
                  obtained in this Legislature we do not know 
                  now, but there the majority was secured by 
                  corruption most foul, and history is filled 
                  with the record of the misfortunes that have 
                  grown out of that forced union. Is it not 
                  plain that if this union be forced on us you 
                  will make Nova Scotia a second Ireland on 
                  this side of the Atlantic, but so near the 
                  United States that only a few miles of water separate us? By adhering to a policy
                  of 
                  coercion you are breaking the loyal hearts 
                  of the people of this country. It is not yet 
                  too late to refer the scheme to our constituents, and if we can get their consent
                  I 
                  pledge myself to never again lift up my 
                  voice in opposition to it, but will use every 
                  effort to make the measure work well.  If, 
                  however, the people are forced into the 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  union, I do not hesitate to say that I will 
                  
                  dedicate the remaining years of my life, be 
                  
                  they many or few, to endeavor to repeal a 
                  
                  union so hateful and obnoxious. I am an 
                  
                  Englishman in spirit, if not by birth ; I love 
                  
                  the institutions of England, but if I am deprived of them and of my liberties as a
                  British subject,—then all I can say is, that by 
                  
                  every constitutional means, I will endeavor 
                  
                  to overthrow and destroy a union brought 
                  
                  about by corrupt and arbitrary means. 
                  
                  
               
                
            
            
            
            
               
               
               
               
                  Speech of Hon. Financial Secretary. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Hon. JAMES MACDONALD said:— It was not, 
                  
                  my intention to address the House this evening 
                  
                  but as no gentleman appears ready to speak 
                  
                  just now I shall endeavor to compress the few 
                  
                  observations I have to make in as brief a compass as possible. I did certainly expect,
                  and the 
                  
                  House had a right to expect, that when gentlemen claiming to possess the sympathy
                  of a large 
                  number of the people challenged the action of an 
                  overwhelming majority of the representatives of 
                  the people assembled in their deliberative capacity, on a great and important constitutional
                  question they would have been prepared to adduce 
                  some precedent and cite some authority in support of the course they have thought
                  proper to 
                  pursue. Especially had we a right to expect this 
                  from a gentleman who is a leading member of 
                  the legal profession, who has sat in the highest 
                  position in this House, and who appears to occupy the position of leader of the Opposition
                  on 
                  this great question. The hon. member for Guysboro', the mover of this resolution,
                  has challenged the constitutionality of the action of this 
                  House in dealing with this question. That branch 
                  of the subject has been so fully and ably dealt with 
                  by the hon. Prov. Secretary, that it is unnecessary for me to refer to it at an length,
                  but I must 
                  recall to the recollection of hon. gentlemen that, 
                  during the debate of last year on the Union question, I took the liberty of laying
                  before the House 
                  and country certain authorities which, I claimed, 
                  proved conclusively the right of the Legislature 
                  to deliberate and finally decide upon this or 
                  any other measure which in their judgment affected the right or interests of the 
                  people. On that occasion I challenged the hon. 
                  member and those holding similar views, to bring 
                  forward a single authority from the whole constitutional history of England or of
                  any other 
                  country enjoying British constitutions in favour 
                  of the proceeding which they wish to pursue. 
                  Now these gentlemen have had a whole year to 
                  search for these authorities—a whole year during 
                  Which this question has been engaging the attention of the ablest minds of the Empire—but
                  
                  they have not been able this session any more 
                  than they were at the last, to do more than deal 
                  in the vaguest generalities and to substitute for 
                  argument and authority empty assertions and 
                  worthless declamation. It was not respectful on 
                  the part of the hon. member for Guysboro', to 
                  the members of this Legislature, it did not comport with his own character and self-respect
                  that 
                  he should fail to bring forward a single authority 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  in support of his position, and that he should 
                  
                  have felt himself justified in being content to 
                  
                  give us only the opinion of a gentleman whom I 
                  
                  am not disposed to deal harshly with—but still 
                  
                  only the opinion of merely a colonial lawyer 
                  
                  against the opinions of the other lawyers in this 
                  
                  House sustained and supported as those Opinions 
                  
                  are by the leading statesmen and lawyers of the 
                  
                  whole Empire; that is to say, the opinion of Mr. 
                  
                  Stewart Campbell against that of the ablest and 
                  
                  best authorities in the Empire at large. That 
                  
                  hon. member had the audacity, then, influenced 
                  
                  by an arrogant opinion of his own standing in 
                  
                  this country not only to oppose every authority 
                  
                  which has been produced, but tells you, asks this 
                  
                  House to believe that the leading minds of the 
                  
                  Empire, the Peers and Commoners of England— 
                  
                  men who control the destinies of the greatest 
                  
                  Empire in the world—who have passed triumphantly through the storms and passions of
                  
                  
                  parties, and of popular excitement—men who at 
                  
                  this moment when the country is violently agitated by a widespread movement for Reform,
                  refuse to be actuated by impulse of mere party 
                  
                  aims—that men like these are not entitled to the 
                  
                  respect and confidence of the House and country on a question like this. Without condescending
                  to produce one single sentence of law or authority, he asks the people of this province
                  to 
                  
                  take his unsupported word against the united 
                  
                  opinion of the est minds of British America, 
                  
                  and of the parent state besides.    
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  I did expect that after the able and argumentative address of the Provincial Secretary
                  we 
                  
                  would have seen an effort made by gentlemen 
                  
                  opposite to combat the position he has taken, but 
                  
                  it is quite evident from the remarks of the hon. 
                  
                  member who last addressed you that there is no 
                  
                  wish on the part of members opposite to convince the members of this House. Their
                  game 
                  
                  is to excite, if it be possible, a feeling of dread 
                  
                  and dislike to this measure outside these walls. 
                  
                  The amendment of the hon. and learned member for Guysboro' raised only the constitutional
                  
                  
                  feature of this question, but I am relieved from 
                  
                  the duty which I felt incumbent upon me to produce authority after authority, record
                  after record, from English constitutional history down 
                  
                  to the present time; for the hon. member for 
                  
                  East Halifax says boldly, " I admit the authority of Parliament; it has the right
                  and the 
                  
                  power to deal with this question; I do not deny 
                  
                  that the position we took last winter and that 
                  
                  taken by this amendment is entirely unconstitutional ; but all I ask you is, whether
                  the exercise of that power at the present time is judicious 
                  
                  or not." Who is right? Which is the best authority? I leave the hon. member for Guysboro'
                  
                  
                  and the hon. member for Halifax to answer the 
                  
                  question, and reconcile the respective positions 
                  
                  they have taken. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  We have to decide whether it "is at the present 
                  
                  moment judicious—whether under circumstances 
                  
                  which are transpiring in British America—whether in view of the position of these
                  colonies towards the mother country and the great power 
                  
                  on our border—we should accept the terms of 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  Union offered, or decline more intimate relations 
                  
                  with our colonial brethren ? The hon. member 
                  
                  for Halifax has answered himself. In a Parliament of Englishmen—of gentlemen who all
                  profess to be devoted subjects of their royal Queen, 
                  
                  who entertain respect for those institutions which 
                  
                  have placed England so largely in advance of 
                  
                  other countries, the declarations of the hon. member ought to suffice, ought to be
                  more than 
                  
                  enough too for the opinions of the most undecided 
                  
                  and irresolute. He has said, and said truly, that 
                  
                  we must belong to the United States or to England. If he means anything, he intends
                  that for 
                  
                  a declaration of separation from England. He 
                  
                  has undertaken to tell you that so regardless are 
                  
                  English statesmen of the colonies that they do 
                  
                  not know what they are. He has told you that 
                  
                  the leading minds and governing classes of the 
                  
                  old country desire the separation of the colonies. 
                  
                  He has gone further and boldly declared that rather than assist our brethren in Canada
                  to build 
                  
                  up a strong power on this side, which will establish British institutions firmly on
                  this continent, 
                  
                  he is ready at a moment to rush into the arms of 
                  
                  the neighbouring Republic. That is not the first 
                  
                  occasion in which the hon. member for East Halifax has taken a similar position. The
                  policy of 
                  
                  that hon. member and of the majority of the men 
                  
                  associated with him, down to the present time, 
                  
                  has been nothing more than annexation to the 
                  
                  United States. I regret I have not under my 
                  
                  hand just now the manifesto of the anti-Union 
                  
                  delegates to the statesmen of England—the case, 
                  
                  as they call it, of the Maritime Provinces—but 
                  
                  I would ask the people of this country, all who 
                  
                  have seen that document, whether it does not 
                  
                  contain sentiments most obnoxious to those 
                  
                  who desire to live under British laws and institutions, and direct encouragement to
                  those in 
                  
                  the United States, who are engaged in promoting the annexation of these colonies.
                  I have 
                  
                  said that this hon. member is desirous of annexing this country to the United States,
                  and 
                  
                  this is an assertion which nothing but the 
                  
                  strongest proof could justify. Let me then recall to the recollection of the House
                  some of 
                  
                  the productions of that hon. member's pen—the 
                  
                  position which he has assumed from the very 
                  
                  commencement of the discussion on this question. What do we find in the paper conducted
                  
                  
                  by that hon. member? From the beginning of 
                  
                  this discussion—from the "Botheration" articles down to the present hour—the strongest
                  
                  
                  declarations of the un-British and disloyal sentiments of the hon. member are to be
                  found. In 
                  
                  the paper which the hon. member claims as presenting the case of the people of this
                  country— 
                  
                  in this paper, purporting to be a vindication of 
                  
                  a British colony, the hon. member undertakes 
                  
                  to compare the scheme of Union with the sister colonies, and the scheme of annexation
                  to 
                  
                  the United States devised by Mr. Banks. Take 
                  
                  that document and compare the description of 
                  
                  the Confederation scheme—a description which 
                  
                  could only emanate from a man imbued with 
                  
                  hostility to the country which he pretends to 
                  
                  love—with the description of a plan of Union 
                  
                  which he proposes with the United States. Mr. 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  Banks' scheme is portrayed in the most flattering colours; our colonial institutions
                  are vilified, while those of the United States are bespattered with fulsome praise.
                  But to what does he 
                  
                  invite us ? To pay a portion of the enormous 
                  
                  taxation which now weighs down the United 
                  
                  States—to participate in the political struggles 
                  
                  and convulsions of that country ; we are to see 
                  
                  our mercantile marine, which is now progressing 
                  
                  with a rapidity that no other country can equal, 
                  
                  transferred to the United States. And what 
                  
                  will be the result when that measure is so transferred ? At the present time , according
                  to the 
                  
                  belief of the most eminent men of that country, 
                  
                  the mercantile marine of the United Sates is at 
                  
                  the lowest ebb, and it would not be at all surprising if a wiser commercial policy
                  does not 
                  
                  soon prevail in that country, to see almost all 
                  
                  their trade eventually carried in foreign bottoms. 
                  
                  Yet the hon. member and his friends would have 
                  
                  us enter a union which, in the course of a very 
                  
                  few years, has brought the formerly great commercial navy of the Republic to so deplorable
                  a 
                  
                  condition. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Let me here call the attention of the House to 
                  
                  another interesting fact in connection with this 
                  
                  question. The hon. gentleman complains of the 
                  
                  indifference of English statesmen to colonial matters. When the bill of Union was
                  introduced to 
                  
                  a very full House by the Earl of Carnarvon, in 
                  
                  a manner that has attracted the praise of journals 
                  
                  of all parties, a noble Lord arose to speak in 
                  
                  support of the anti-Union party. And what was 
                  
                  the reception he met with? Whilst the supporters of the Government sat in their places,
                  every 
                  
                  one of the friends of the noble Lord arose and 
                  
                  left the House—so thoroughly did they disapprove of the course pursued by him. Is
                  it at all 
                  surprising that the Peers of England should have 
                  been disgusted when they read the sentiments expressed by these Nova Scotians professing
                  to be 
                  the delegates of the people in favour of annexation to the United States, and that
                  they should 
                  have declined to compromise themselves by seeming to encourage their views. When they
                  saw 
                  the disloyalty that appeared in every line of that 
                  document, I do not wonder that so many of the 
                  Peers should have manifested their contempt for 
                  those who wished to place them in a wrong position, by rising and leaving the House
                  on the instant. The hon. member tells you that the Parliament of England exhibits
                  the most utter indifference to the interests of the colonies. Yet the 
                  same Parliament has always shown the deepest 
                  interest in the welfare and progress of the colonies, and we have only to look at
                  the speeches of 
                  the leading men in the Peers and Commons to 
                  see how deeply desirous they are of promoting 
                  the welfare and progress of every section of their 
                  great Colonial Empire.  
                  
                  
               
               
               The hon. member says that the governing classes of England desire the separation 
                  of the colonies from the mother country. I  
                  will take the liberty of joining issue directly with him on that point. I believe
                  that 
                  the governing classes of Great Britain have 
                  a higher appreciation of what constitutes 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  the wealth and greatness of the Empire, 
                  
                  and I think the people of this country will 
                  
                  require higher authority than that of a disappointed partizan for the assertion that
                  the 
                  
                  men who have spent the blood and treasure 
                  
                  of the Empire, for their colonial possessions, feel any disregard for their interests
                  
                  
                  and the continuance of the connection, 
                  
                  But we have higher authority on this point. 
                  
                  The debates in the Houses of Lords and 
                  
                  Commons are supposed to convey, in the 
                  
                  most conclusive manner, the intelligent 
                  
                  public opinion of the country—to disseminate through the world the clearest views
                  
                  
                  and ideas of the public sentiment; and every noble lord who rose to speak on this
                  bill 
                  
                  vindicated not only the position taken by 
                  
                  the Legislature of Nova Scotia, but the 
                  
                  conditions upon which this Union is to be 
                  
                  effected, but even went further and 
                  gave it as his deliberate opinion 
                  that the retention of the colonies was 
                  essential to the best interests of the British Empire. Even a nobleman whom the 
                  hon. member thought he might fairly count 
                  upon—a nobleman from whom he perhaps 
                  fairly thought he might expect encouragement—told him frankly he could not sustain
                  him because he believed the measure 
                  of Union was essential to the best interests 
                  of the country, and the Marquis of Normanby even went further and declared to these
                  
                  people's delegates that his residence in this 
                  country enabled him to form a pretty accurate estimate of the value of such petitions
                  as those which the delegates pretended gave them authority to present themselves in
                  England on behalf of the people 
                  of Nova Scotia. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. ANNAND—I hope the hon. gentleman 
                  
                  has authority for what he is saying. 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. MACDONALD—The hon member will 
                  
                  not  deny that the Marquis of Normanby 
                  
                  was the friend of the government of which 
                  
                  he was the Financial Secretary. It will be 
                  
                  remembered that when the hon member 
                  
                  was a member of Lord Mulgrave's Government, some 26,000 petitioners approached 
                  
                  that noble lord as the governor of this province, and the hon member took the liberty,
                  
                  
                  as the constitutional adviser of his Excellency, of putting on record the statement
                  that 
                  
                  these petitions were not worthy of, or entitled to be shown, credit. Lord Mulgrave
                  
                  
                  took the advice of his government at that 
                  
                  time, and now naturally feels disinclined to 
                  
                  recede from the position he was advised to 
                  
                  take. "Gentlemen," he says now, " I hold 
                  
                  the same opinion of these petitions that you 
                  
                  did when I was Governor. You appear to 
                  
                  have changed your opinions: I have not." 
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  The Parliament of England was in session 
                  
                  for five or six weeks before the delegates 
                  
                  returned, and yet these anti-Union petitions 
                  
                  had never been presented. The hon member must have been afraid to present them, 
                  
                  or the House of Commons would not receive 
                  
                  them. Let him tell us how this is. If the 
                  
                  people of Nova Scotia entrusted him as 
                  
                  their delegate with the petitions against 
                  
                  Union, and he has failed to present 
                  
                  them, then he forfeited the greatest trust 
                  
                  that was ever reposed in any man.— 
                  
                  If he has done this great wrong to the people who 
                  
                  entrusted him with so sacred a duty, he should 
                  
                  hide in humiliation and shame from an outraged 
                  
                  people. But let me call the attention of the people 
                  
                  to a most extraordinary and curious fact. What 
                  
                  has become of the petitions which we have been 
                  
                  told were entrusted to Messrs. Howe and Annand? Who has seen them? Nobody in this
                  
                  
                  country certainly and as far as we yet know no 
                  
                  one in England has had that pleasure.   
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  But I can acquit the hon. member of blame 
                  
                  on one ground—he was not the delegate of the 
                  
                  people of Nova Scotia. The people repudiate 
                  
                  the connection which the hon. member wishes to 
                  
                  fasten upon them. The people are not only 
                  
                  loyal to the Queen, but they are intelligent 
                  
                  enough to appreciate the arguments by which. 
                  
                  they are asked to change their condition. I 
                  
                  must protest in their name against the belief  
                  
                  that they are ready to tear down the Union Jack 
                  
                  and associate themselves with the Republic on 
                  
                  their borders. (Applause.) But what is the duty 
                  
                  of the people in the present crisis? What will 
                  
                  the loyal Scotchmen, Irishmen, and Englishmen 
                  
                  of his country do? Are they ready to take the 
                  
                  extreme step urged by the hon. member for East 
                  
                  Halifax to become rebels and traitors because 
                  
                  Mr. Annand is a disappointed partizan?  I ask 
                  
                  the intelligent people of this country to do this 
                  
                  —to act as honorable, sensible men should do on 
                  
                  every question—to consider it calmly and on its 
                  
                  merits. I do not ask them to take the views of 
                  
                  the politicians of Canada, of New Brunswick,  
                  
                  or of Nova Scotia; but I ask them, and it is fair 
                  
                  to ask them, to take the views of the Parliament 
                  
                  and people of England, the body of men who, 
                  
                  for centuries, have ruled the destinies of the 
                  
                  world—who have worked out the free institutions of England in a manner that attracts
                  the 
                  
                  admiration of other nations. I ask the people 
                  
                  of this country if with the unanimous  opinions 
                  
                  of such a body in favour of this Union, .they are 
                  
                  ready to attach any value to the sentiments of 
                  
                  the hon. gentlemen opposite. I do not think 
                  
                  that the intelligent people of this country are 
                  
                  the men to reject the public opinion of England 
                  
                  at the dictation of gentlemen who have themselves entertained views directly adverse
                  to those 
                  
                  they entertain now. 
                  
                  
               
               
               Let me advert for one moment to another position taken by the hon. member. The House
                  
                  knows that early in the commencement of this 
                  question a gentleman standing high in the estimation of the hon. member—who has occupied
                  a 
                  
                  
                  
                  
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                  prominent position in this country—offered a 
                  
                  counter scheme of Union in lieu of that submitted to this Legislature. That scheme
                  has been 
                  
                  rejected as far as my observation goes by the 
                  
                  whole Anti-Union press up to the present hour. 
                  
                  I have heard of no opponent of Union who has 
                  
                  had the hardihood to advocate the scheme for the 
                  
                  organization of the Empire until the hon. member did so to-night. He has had the boldness
                  to 
                  
                  declare that this scheme is the one which he and 
                  
                  his party favor. He says he does not deny that 
                  
                  some political change in our condition is necessary, and has expressed his readiness
                  to adopt the 
                  
                  scheme propounded by Mr. Howe for the organization of the Empire. By that scheme we
                  
                  
                  are to pay for the wars of the whole Empire. 
                  
                  He says he will make us pay pound for pound 
                  
                  with the other portions of the Empire. 
                  
                  That same idea was enunciated some years 
                  
                  ago by Mr. Howe, but I never heard of any 
                  
                  who was prepared. to consider it seriously 
                  
                  until the hon. member to-night declared 
                  
                  that he would make Nova Scotia as Kent 
                  
                  or Surrey or any other county of England. 
                  
                  The objection to the Quebec scheme was 
                  
                  that our representation in the General 
                  
                  Legislature was too insignificant, and that 
                  
                  we would have to pay for the defence of 
                  
                  Canada, that our burthens would be much 
                  
                  heavier than they are now. Yet under the 
                  
                  plan prepounded by Mr. Howe our people 
                  
                  may be summoned at any moment to Canada, or any portion of the world, wherever 
                  
                  her broad empire extends, to fight the battles of England ; we shall be taxed pound
                  for 
                  
                  pound with our fellow-subjects of the British Islands—whilst we shall only have a
                  
                  
                  representation of three or four men in the 
                  
                  House of Commons. Are the people of 
                  
                  this country prepared to accept such a 
                  
                  scheme in preference to the one now offered for their acceptance? 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  In concluding these few imperfect remarks, I may say that perhaps I shall be 
                  
                  able to address the House on another occasion when better prepared to deal with it;
                  
                  
                  but I could not permit the remarks of the 
                  
                  hon. member to ass without immediate 
                  
                  notice. I shall on y repeat what I said previously that before the hon. member can
                  lay 
                  
                  claim to the favorable consideration of the 
                  
                  loyal people of this province, he should explain away the sentiments which say so
                  
                  
                  little for his allegiance and loyalty to the 
                  
                  British Empire. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  Mr. ANNAND:—I desire to make an explanation in reply to the hon. gentleman. 
                  
                  I have never advocated annexation to the 
                  
                  United States, I advocate nothing but that 
                  
                  we all remain as we are, and maintain our 
                  
                  present institutions. As to the taunt about 
                  
                  my adhesion to the scheme for the organization of the Empire, I reply that I advocate
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  that scheme because it will make us English 
                  
                  How the hon. gentleman will reconcile his 
                  
                  imputation of disloyalty with my desire that 
                  
                  we should become as a county of England 
                  
                  I will leave it to his ingenuity to say. 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  Hon. PROVINCIAL SECRETARY remarked 
                  
                  that the house would be expected to divide 
                  
                  on the question on the following evening. 
                  
                  Another opportunity would be afforded for 
                  
                  discussion when the papers in reference to 
                  
                  the delegation were brought down. 
                  
                  
 
               
               
               
               
                  The debate was adjourned. 
                  
                  
               
               
               
               
                  The house adjourned to the following day 
                  
                  at 2.30