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             Thursday,
               April 20. 
               
            
            
            
             Mr. TOBIN
               said that for the last few years so  
               much had been said upon the question of Railroads, it was impossible to bring forward
               
               anything new on the subject.  There were  
               a great many things in the speech of the hon.  
               leader of the opposition, to which he would have  
               liked to refer ; but as he perceived that he was  
               not in his place, he should refrain from doing so.  
               If the present position of this country were contrasted with the condition of affairs
               a few years  
               ago, it would be found that from some cause or  
               other, whether from the construction of railroads  
               or the spirit of commercial enterprize, or the  
               gradual expansion of trade, the Revenue had  
               swelled to an extent beyond the expectation of the  
               most sanguine.  He had taken the trouble a year  
               ago, when it was proposed to
               extend the railroad  
               to Pictou, to look into the question, and to contrast the state of our Revenue then
               with what it  
               was before the railway system
               was inaugurated,  
               and what did he find ?  
               
 
            
            
            
             (The hon. gentleman here said that he had 
               mislaid the memorandum of figures he had prepared ;  
               but speaking from memory) the
               Revenue, which  
               in 1851 amounted to ÂŁ102, 632, had swelled in  
               10 years (1861) to over ÂŁ281,000,
               and this year  
               the Financial Secretary estimates it at over  
               $1,300,000.  So it will be seen
               that since the  
               construction of railroads has been commenced,  
               that the trade of the country has increased—labor  
               has been multiplied,—and the expenditure of the  
               Province has been kept within its income.  He 
               had prepared a few calculations as to the amount 
               of liability annually imposed upon this country  
               by the construction of these public works, and  
               first as to the two links already completed to  
               Truro and Windsor.  Some hon gentlemen wished to leave these where they were ; but
               that he  
               never could assent to.  He believed that they  
               never could be made properly remunerative until  
               they tapped the waters of the St.
               Lawrence on the  
               one hand, and the Bay of Fundy on the other. 
            
            
             In approaching this subject, he wished to
               do  
               so in a spirit of fairness and candor.  He did not 
               wish to state the liability we would be called upon 
               to assume at a dollar less than it really would
               be.  
               For many years we have spent
               large sums of the 
               public monies in constructing mud roads.  This  
               session, over $250.000 has been
               voted for that 
               
                  
               
               purpose.  And yet it is argued by some,
               that  
               altho' the Province can afford to do that, she  
               cannot undertake the construction of the e public  
               works, which will add so much to the wealth and  
               material prosperity of the country.  
               
            
            
            
            
             To return, however, to the subject of liability—  
               he found that the Province had issued debentures  
               to the extent of a million of
               pounds for the construction of the lines to Windsor and Truro—this  
               involved an annual liability of £60,000 for interest.  No difficulty had ever
               been experienced  
               in paying that interest—the
               Province had always  
               been prepared when called upon to meet all demands, and certainly she was in a better
               condition now, than when railway construction was  
               commenced.  Then again, we have, after some  
               delay, undertaken the construction of the line to  
               Pictou—the propriety of that extension has always been admitted, and it was only a
               question  
               of time as to when the finances of the country  
               would admit of its being undertaken.  The estimated cost of that work is £500,000,
               which will  
               impose an annual liability of £30, 000.  That  
               liability, however, will not fall upon us immediately ; but will be extended over
               three years, as  
               the work goes on—and as the business of the  
               country would also go on increasing, there is no  
               doubt, that there would be no trouble in meeting  
               these obligations.  The
               Government now propose  
               to subsidize any company to construct the line to  
               the borders of New Brunswick—which is estimated to cost £400,000, when
               capitalized, involving an annual charge on the Revenues of the  
               Province of ÂŁ24,000 a year. It is also proposed  
               to extend the line to Annapolis.  Last year, a 
               resolution was passed by the House, offering any  
               company that would undertake to construct the  
               line, a subvention of 4 per cent. on ÂŁ6,000 per  
               mile.  It appears, after a lapse of'a year, that no  
               company is willing to undertake the work, unless  
               the Government will build the bridge over the  
               Avon—that bridge is estimated to
               cost ÂŁ40,000.  
               The cost of the Annapolis road, at ÂŁ6,000 per  
               mile, will amount to £50,000—if that is capitalized at the same rate of four per cent—it
               will give  
               ÂŁ20,400 annual interest to be paid by the Province.  
               
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
             Then again, take the cost of bridging the
               Avon—  
               the hon. leader of the Opposition undertook to question the accuracy of the estimate—but
               the only  means of judging, was from the report of the Engineer, and he did not think
               that the Government  
               had any motive or desire to conceal from the country the real cost of the work—the
               interest at six  
               per cent upon the cost—as
               estimated by the Engineer, will be ÂŁ2,400 a year.  
               
            
            
            
             It appears that Mr. Leversey on behalf
               of the In— 
               ternational Contract Company, has
               offered to construct
               the road to the borders of New Brunswick,  
               provided the Government, or the City of Halifax, 
               take stock to the amount of £100,000.  The
               Government, probably looking at all points of the political horizon, have come to
               the conclusion
               that 
               they can manage to get the city to assume that  
               amount of stock.  He (Mr. T.) was not going to 
               discuss that question just then—but he thought it  
               would be wise before they
               passed any law to make 
               
               
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               the city liable, that they should have the agreement drawn up and the bond signed.
               He believed that if the proper papers had been signed  
               by the properly constituted authorities, there would  
               have been no difficulty—but the members of the  
               City Council felt that they were not bound by any  
               loose expressions or pledges made by some persons  
               at a public meeting in the Temperance Hall, and  
               which never had been ratified by any resolution of  
               the City Council. These are the views of many of  
               the members of the City Council, whether correct 
               or not he was not prepared to say. If the city of 
               Halifax, took stock to the extent of ÂŁ100,000, she  
               would receive from the Province four per cent. If  
               the Province took it—they would have to pay 2  
               per cent more. All these sums added together,  
               would give a total annual liability of $578,700,
               
               which the Province would have to pay after the  
               whole of these works were completed—representing  
               a debt of $9.645.000 ; but this
               of course would  
               not accrue at once, but would be spread over  
               a number of years. This appeared a pretty  
               large debt for a population of about 350,000  
               people, amounting to about $1.65
               per head.  
               
            
            
            
             Mr. LEVESCONTE.—Have you taken into consideration, that the Province only guarantees the  
               amount for 20 years, and that it will not be a permanent debt.  
               
 
            
            
             Mr. TOBIN perfectly understood that the
               liability would cease at the end of twenty years—on the 
               extension to Annapolis, and New Brunswick.  
               
 
            
            
             Mr. LEVESCONTE.—It
               does not require as much  
               money to capitalize a sum for 20 years, as if it was  
               for ever. He thought the hon. member had made  
               this mistake.   
               
 
            
            
            
            
            
            
             He had also included the St. Peter's
               Canal in  
               his calculations, which he had put down at $125,000. He had also taken the trouble
               to make another little estimate of the indirect advantages  
               which had been derived from the construction of  
               the two short lines of railroad to Windsor and  
               Truro. He found upon looking over the returns  
               of 1863 that there were 110,137 passengers carried  
               over the road and 56,471 tons of freight—9,784 free  
               passengers and 1,192 had season tickets—then
               
               take into consideration the time saved in travelling—a farmer leaving Windsor for
               Halifax by the  
               old route, would have to stop at the
               various places  
               of call on the road, each one
               costing him something, and by the time he had completed his business to Halifax, it
               would be several
               days before he  
               could get home again—whereas now
               by the railroad, he could transact all his
               business and be  
               back in two days.  
               
            
            
             He put down time saved at $99,161—saving
               in  
               freight as compared with the cost of transportation over the ordinary road at $282,355—free
               passengers must have saved in time—at
               the rate of  
               $2 each $19,568—season
               tickets, these are chiefly
               
               used by parties who have opened up a
               number of  
               works along the line, such as slate quarries— 
               powder mills—ice houses—he would put down the  
               direct advantages to the parties at $5
               each, which  
               would amount to $5,960—then
               add the amount  
               of net proceeds received according to
               the Commissioners report, $149,647—42 making a total of  
               
               
               
               
               $556,718,42-100 while the amount of interest,  
               the Province will be liable for, after the completion  
               of the entire lines, will only be $578,700.
               Therefore, in view of these
               calculations, he thought it  
               would be the best thing to go on with these
               works,  
               even if we had to run some risk. It was true that  
               the obligations they were about to assume were  
               heavy, but he believed that the revenue and resources of the county would increase
               to such an  
               extent as to meet every liability that they were  
               about to incur.  
               
            
            
             No one could deny but that it would be a
               great  
               advantage to this country, to have direct railway  
               communication with the whole continent of America, and if New Brunswick has determined
               to  
               construct her line to the borders,
               it surely was  
               the duty as well as the interest
               of N ova Scotia to  
               connect with her, and thus open
               communication  
               with Canada and the United States of America.
               
               It was well known that people who travelled  
               abroad, had a great repugnance to sea voyages,  
               and no doubt if these lines of railroad were completed, travellers from Canada, New
               Brunswick,  
               and the United States, would come to Halifax,
               to  
               take passage to Europe, and thus increase the  
               passenger traffic and
               consequently the remunerative qualities of the road. 
               
            
            
            
            
             They had all been accustomed for years to
               
               build great hopes upon the construction of the  
               Intercolonial Railroad. For his part
               he must confess that but as a means for the
               consummation of a  
               Union of the Colonies he had no
               great faith in it.  
               As a commercial speculation it would be years before it could pay. As a national work
               however  
               it was a matter of great importance, and as a  
               means of transporting mails and passengers it  
               would be exceedingly valuable. At present the 
               mails and passengers have to be transported 
               through Boston by sufferance.
               Suppose any disturbance should take place between England
               and the  
               United States and that should happen in midwinter, and it would be necessary to land
               the  
               mails and passengers, it would take ten or twelve  
               days to transport them over land to Canada.  
               
            
            
             Unless this line is continued, and the
               contemplated union takes place, he had serious doubts  
               whether Canada would long remain in her present  
               position as a province of British
               America.  She  
               must have an outlet to the seat. He read a  
               speech the other day of Sir Etienna
               Tache in which  
               he said, that unless acrostatic science was 
               more fully developed, Canada could not reach 
               the sea by ballooning. However, it is quite certain  
               she cannot remain much longer in
               her present  
               position. He could not help
               regretting that Nova  
               Scotia and New Brunswick should
               be so unpatriotic in a matter of such national
               and paramount importance as this, as to talk about dollars and  
               cents, that they should be so unpatriotic to the  
               mother country who had spent so much for
               their  
               defence, as to refuse to make
               even a small sacrifice  
               for the purpose of helping her to maintain
               her  
               power on this continent.  
               
            
            
            
            
             He must confess that his
               views rather went with  
               the member for Yarmouth in his idea that the 
               Government ought to retain the control over the 
               trunk line to New Brunswick, but if there was  
               
               
               
               
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               any doubt as
               to whether New Brunswick would  
               build her line to the border, it there was any danger of any difficulty occurring,
               he was willing to  
               agree to this proposition, rather
               than run the risk  
               of the line not being built.  
               
            
            
             On the subject of the Intercolonial railroad he  
               would say that if built by the United Provinces,
               
               even if it remained unremunerative for a while,  
               it would not bear too heavily upon the revenue,  
               because when all our revenues are combined we  
               would be in a better position to bear the burden  
               than we are now.  All the
               revenues would go into  
               the common treasury, the public works would be  
               of such a nature that the combined means of all  
               the Provinces would be sufficient to sustain them.  
               It appeared to him surprising that hon.
               gentlemen  
               in discussing the question,
               appeared to think that  
               Nova Scotia was always
               going to be Nova Scotia,  
               they forget that they would all
               be British Americans—all our people would be
               associated together  
               for business purposes, with one code of laws, one  
               currency, one system of custom duties. 
            
            
             But he would not say any
               more at present,  
               about the union of the
               colonies.  The hon gentleman concluded by recapitulating the
               advantage  
               Nova Scotia would derive from the extension of  
               railroad communication, if providently and economically carried out.  
               
            
            
            
             Mr. MILLER said,
               he did not intend, at that
               
               period of the session, to weary
               the house with  
               any lengthened remarks upon the subject  
               then under discussion.  The resolution
               before  
               the house proposes to grant from
               the public  
               treasury, as a free gift for the next twenty  
               years, the sum of four per cent. on
               $40,000 a  
               mile to a company to complete railway connection between Truro and Moncton, and the
               
               further sum of four per cent. on $24,000 per  
               mile to extend the railway from
               Windsor to  
               Annapolis, not including the Avon bridge.  
               This resolution will, therefore,
               add to the burthens of the country about $23,000 for the next  
               twenty years.  
               
 
            
            
             It
               would be in the recollection of
               the house  
               that when this question was brought up last  
               year, and the subvention resolution was moved  
               by the Provincial Secretary, he (Mr. M.)
               moved  
               a resolution, by way of
               amendment, to this  
               effect:— 
            
            
            
            
               
               
                "Whereas,
                  The revenue of this Provinee is now  
                  burthened with a liability of  about ÂŁ60,000
                  annually  
                  for interest on the money
                  invested in our existing  
                  lines of railway. 
                  
               
               
                And whereas,
                  The Act of this Session;
                  providing for  
                  the construction of the line to
                  Pictou, will entail a  
                  further charge of at least ÂŁ25,000
                  annually.  
                  
               
               
               Therefore
                     resolved, That it is unwise, at
                  the present  
                  time, to pledge the public credit to
                  the extent required by the resolution before the House." 
                  
                
            
            
            
            
             That
               amendment, he regretted
               to say, was  
               lost by a large majority, and by
               the votes of  
               many whose duty it was to have sustained it.  
               It was true, that the impression
               prevailed at  
               the time, whether rightly
               founded or not, that  
               although the subvention for the
               Annapolis  
               line was included in the original
               resolution,  
               there was no serious intention of carrying it  
               into effect; and some of those
               who voted for it  
               might have been influenced 
               by that idea.  
               Whether that was a sufficient
               excuse for 
               the action of any hon. gentleman
               upon a 
               question of such magnitude as this, was  
               not for him to say.  If any such consider
               
               
               
               ations controlled the votes of any
               members  
               of the house last year, he trusted such would  
               not be the case on the present occasion,  
               and that the people's representatives would  
               consider well the consequences that would  
               flow from the vote they were about to
               give—a  
               vote which must add enormously to the taxation of the country.  When he
               looked at the  
               conduct of the gentlemen who were
               now conducting the government of this
               country—when  
               he observed the reckless extravagance of their  
               general policy, and contrasted it with their  
               retrenchment pledges, and the course they  
               pursued a few years ago, when in opposition— 
               especially with regard to railways, he was inclined to look with much suspicion
               and distrust upon their present action
               on this subject.  
               What had produced a change so startling and
               
               extreme?  If the government then in power  
               had endeavoured to fasten upon the
               resources  
               of the province the liability which
               is now  
               sought to be imposed, those gentlemen
               would  
               have raised a howl of indignation throughout  
               the whole  country.  He was curious, therefore, to enquire into the
               causes which  
               had let to this sudden change of policy.  
               To his mind there was only one satisfactory  
               solution of the inconsistency of the administration, and their apparent desire
               to plunge  
               the country inextricably into debt.  They  
               all knew that the members of the
               present  
               government were heart and soul
               wrapped  
               up in carrying to a successful termination the  
               confederation of the British North American  
               provinces, and that hitherto the
               most powerful  
               argument used by the opponents of that measure was the increased taxation it would
               involve, and the necessity of raising our tariff  
               from ten to twenty per cent.  Now, if they  
               succeed in embarrassing the
               finances of the  
               country, if they succeed in burthening our  
               resources with the enormous
               debt the resolution on the table of the house will
               entail, so as  
               to compel us to increase the taxation of the  
               people by doubling our tariff,
               they, at the same  
               time do away with one of the principle objections to their pet scheme of confederation. 
               It  
               was hard to fathom the motives of these gentlemen, but it was clear they
               were not governed by a prudent regard to the best interests of 
               the country.  Perhaps, also, a desire to secure 
               the political favor of one or two western  
               counties has something to do
               with the extension to Annapolis.  These were the  
               only motives that suggested themselves to 
               his mind for the
               reckless course the government were now pursuing on this question.   
               When this subject was discussed
               last session 
               he had endeavored, feebly no doubt, but
               to the 
               best of his ability, to urge his views against 
               the policy then
               under consideration, because  
               he keenly felt its injustice to those he
               represented. 
               All he could say then had no effect in
               
               deterring hon. gentlemen from the headlong  
               course of extravagance they seemed determined to pursue, and he supposed anything
               he  
               might say now would be equally useless and 
               unavailing.  He did not intend to go into financial matters, which had been so ably
               treated by the learned leader of the Opposition— 
               but he thought that any one who listened to  
               the arguments of that hon. member—with a 
               sincere desire to arrive at a correct conclusion  
               —could not fail to be convinced of the correctness of the views he enunciated, and
               the wisdom of the course he advocated.  That hon. 
               
               
               
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               gentleman,
               with his usual ability had so clearly justified the attitude of opposition he had
               
               assumed to this resolution, and shown it to be  
               the duty of every man who regarded the credit and welfare of the country to oppose
               it, that  
               it was unnecessary to go over the same ground.  
               He could not, however, refrain from alluding  
               to the impropriety of the course pursued by  
               the government, in delaying the consideration  
               of this important question—the most important, financially, that had engaged the attention
               of the house—until this late period of the  
               session, when some of the members had returned to their homes, and there was no probability
               of its receiving that attention its importance demanded. Too much of the business
               of the house was done in that way. On  
               the subject of railway extension, he would say  
               that if the province was justified at all in  
               entering upon any further expenditure, the  
               line to the borders of New Brunswick, to connect with the railway system of the United
               
               States, should be the first to receive consideration, and he was not prepared to say
               if that  
               had been proposed by itself, whether it would  
               have received his opposition, provided he  
               could be convinced the country could bear  
               the burthen of its construction
               without injury to other important services.  
               But there certainly could be no doubt that the  
               finances of this province would not admit of  
               the construction of both lines at the same time  
               even if they were admitted to be
               necessary to  
               the public convenience. With regard to the  
               Annapolis line he could only look up it as an  
               accomodation to one or two counties at the expense of the whole province. Party necessity
               
               or political expediency might secure its construction, but those who helped to place
               this  
               liability on their constituents would yet have  
               to meet a day of reckoning. The Finl.
               Sec.  
               endeavoured to shew in supporting the Railway policy of the government that certain
               services could be cut down, some of them of the  
               most vital consequence to the country. Thus  
               admitting that we must hereafter
               either lose  
               our pubic grants or be more heavily taxed.  
               He thought that if there was no other reason  
               for opposition if the Finl. Secy. was obliged to  
               admit that he could not expect to meet this  
               expenditure, without depriving them of some  
               of the most essential services the province required, that of itself ought to be suffiicient
               
               reason to deter gentlemen from voting for this  
               resolution and he begged them to be warned  
               in time. He had promised not to
               make any  
               lengthy observations and he should not do so.  
               He had risen principally to make these
               explanations in consequence of the
               position he  
               had taken last year, and because the remarks he then made had not been reported. 
               
               He would ask gentlemen from all parts of
               the  
               province, and particularly these representing  
               the more remote sections, whether they were  
               prepared to assume the enormous liability  
               this resolution proposed—a
               liability which  
               would cramp our resources, and weigh upon  
               the industry and energies of our people for  
               the next twenty years. He for one was not prepared to do so; and in voting against
               the resolution he considered he was
               acting with a due  
               regard to the interests of the whole province,  
               and those especially who had elected him as 
               their representative. The adoption of
               this 
               policy, it was
               admitted, would lead either to  
               the increase of the tariff or
               the reduction of 
               
               
               
               those grants which have been always considered essential to the interests of the country.
               
               Their constituents might not complain until  
               they experienced that result; but when railway interest had absorbed all the revenue,
               
               and nothing was left for roads, schools, navigation securities, or other services,
               gentlemen  
               around these benches would then hear
               their
               
               reproaches. Instead of diminishing the grants  
               to these sources as intimated by the Financial  
               Secretary, he contended they should be increased from year to year with the increasing
               
               wants of the country. In that view of the case,  
               then, he did not think it was wise or prudent,  
               but on the contrary the most reckless
               folly, to  
               incur this heavy expenditure. He would
               be  
               ashamed to show himself among the people of  
               Cape Breton, who are already so largely taxed  
               for railways in Nova Scotia proper, from which  
               they derive little benefit, if he voted for this  
               resolution. He could be guilty of no greater  
               injustice towards them than to add so largely  
               to the railway burdens they now
               so unjustly  
               bear. In comparison with this question every  
               other of a financial nature before them this  
               winter was simply insignificant, and no small  
               considerations should influence the course of  
               gentlemen in regard to it. The hon. member  
               concluded by referring to the haste with which  
               this measure was pressed through the house.  
               It took years before the Pictou railway bill  
               was placed on the statute book; and here they  
               were asked with scarcely any discussion on  
               consideration, to pass a measure involving an  
               annual liability of something like $230,000,
               in  
               addition to $360,000 which they would at least  
               have to pay on the completion of the Pictou  
               road. He trusted that gentlemen would
               pause
               
               before they committed themselves to this measure, and would, at all events, wait until
               the  
               Pictou road was completed before they incurred  
               fresh liabilities—which he was convinced the  
               province was not at present in a position to  
               assume.  
               
            
            
             Mr. BLANCHARD
               said that he did not agree  
               with the member for Richmond in his idea,  
               that the government in
               introducing this measure were influenced by a desire to assist the  
               confederation scheme. In his judgment, the  
               government, by taking this step, had put
               confederation out of the question for at least 20 
               years to come. When these proposed lines of  
               railway are completed, the debt of Nova Scotia  
               will amount to $11,085,000 ; and if he understood anything about the terms agreed
               upon  
               at the Quebec Conference, the
               Province
               was  
               to be admitted into the Union with a debt of  
               $8,000,000—anything beyond that was to be  
               borne by the Province individually—and  
               would have to be raised by direct taxation.  
               Therefore he could not see that the government were serving the best interests of
               confederation by the introduction of this
               measure.  
               At this late period of the session, when
               most  
               of the members had returned to theirhomes,  
               and those" who remained were not in the  
               humor to listen to long
               speeches, he did not  
               intend to address the house at any very great  
               length, but he would refer, shortly, to some of  
               the remarks made by the honourable  
               Financial Secretary.  That
               honourable gentleman stated that he based his calculations  
               upon the assumption that the revenue for this  year would be the same, if not larger,
               than the 
               last.  On a former occasion he (Mr. B.) had  
               made the assertion that at no time did our  
               
               
               
               
               
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               commercial prospects look more gloomy
               than  
               at the present—and he had appealed to the  
               hon. members for Richmond and
               Halifax to  
               say whether he was right. Neither of these  
               gentlemen had ventured to endorse the statement of the Financial Secretary, because
               being  
               engaged in trade themselves they knew his  
               anticipations of an increased revenue were  
               without foundation. According
               to the calculation of the member for Colchester (Mr. Archibald) an additional burden
               of $400,000 a year  
               will be placed upon the revenues of the province by the resolution now under
               discussion.  
               The member for Halifax (Mr.Tobin) makes  
               out that the whole debt will be $11,085,000, and  
               he calculates the interest at $500,000. How he  
               arrived at that conclusion he (Mr. B.) was at a  
               loss to imagine ; it certainly
               was not at six per  
               cent. By his own calculations
               he made out  
               the yearly liability to be $665,000
               on the debt  
               as stated by Mr. Tobin, and this, deducting the  
               present debt, just agrees with Mr. Archibald's  
               estimate. He would ask the house whether  
               they were prepared to assume an
               additional  
               liability of $400,000 per annum
               for twenty  
               years to come? If the Financial
               Secretary  
               can demonstrate that the financial condition  
               of the country will bear that enormous burden  
               he should be surprised indeed.
               How, he would  
               ask, could the members for Cape Breton go  
               back to their constituents and justify
               themselves for voting for this resolution which will  
               put ÂŁ20,000 additional every year upon them.  
               The great cry in that island always had been  
               that Nova Scotia swallowed up the whole  
               revenue, and did not return to Cape Breton a  
               fair share of what she contributed. He for one  
               could not go back to his constituents and tell  
               them that he had consented to put ÂŁ20,000  
               more upon them to build a
               railroad to Moncton and Annapolis. The hon. member for
               
               Victoria (Mr. O. J. Campbell) denounced
               the  
               resolution introduced last year,
               in the strongest manner, in pretty much the same terms as  
               he was then doing; but the
               resolution of last  
               year sank into utter insignificance when compared with those now on the table. When
               it  
               was considered that the Pictou railroad was  
               going to cost ÂŁ100,000 more than was anticipated when it was commenced, he
               did not  
               envy the man who undertook to justify to the  
               people of this country the increased
               expenditure which it was proposed to make. He  
               would be the last man to say, that.upon  
               every public question, a
               representative  
               was to be bound and influenced
               solely  
               by the views of his constituents. It was  
               his duty to regard the interests of the
               whole  
               country, but still, in a question
               of this kind, it  
               was proper that he should consider
               whether  
               he was justified in imposing this additional  
               burden upon them. Any one who took the  
               trouble to look into the statistics
               on the subject will find that Cape Breton.
               paid into the  
               revenue, for loyalty on coal,
               $29,000 being ten  
               thousand dollars more than Nova Scotia
               proper, and yet this money is to be expended for  
               the construction of a railroad to the
               western  
               part of the province. The Finl. Sec'y appeared to think that the large expenditure
               which  
               is going on in Cape Breton will tend to increase the revenue. He (Mr. B.)
               did not think 
               that there was much in that
               argument. If any  
               reduction took place in the price of agricultural 
               productions, she would lose more than could   
               be made up in that respect.  Cape Breton sent  
               
               
               
  
               
               to market, in
               1863, a
               million of pounds of butter; upon that article alone, if the
               price remains as it is, which is about one half of what  
               it was a short time ago, she
               will lose $125,000.  
               The advantages derived from the
               expenditure  
               of capital in Cape Breton will be more
               than 
               counterbalanced by the loss she
               will sustain  
               in the price of agricultural productions. The 
               Finl. Sec'y admits that we will incur a liability 
               of $323,000.  Now he would ask
               the house to  
               look these figures in the face. 
               He
               would ask  
               the members for Cape Breton if they were  
               prepared to assume a liability of $323,000
               in  
               addition to the sum already borne
               by the revenue?
 
            
            
            
                    
               The Pro. Sec. says the tariff must be
               increased in order to provide for the increased expenditure upon the public works.
               What a commentary upon the course pursued by that hon.  
               gentleman a few years ago.  The government  
               then to meet a temporary
               emergency were  
               forced to increase the tariff.  Did the Financial  
               Secretary agree to that?  On the contrary he  
               denounced the government and appealed to  
               the country with the cry that this reckless and  
               extravagant government, instead of
               retrenching their expenses, were going to increase the  
               burdens of  the people by adding
               to the duties  
               they would have to pay.  He and those associated with him succeeded in frightening
               the
               
               people for the time, and he attained the object  
               he had in view.  But what did he propose to  
               do now—instead of carrying out the retrenchment he then advocated, he proposes
               to add  
               this additional burden of $323,000
               a year to our  
               present liabilities and to increase the tariff as  
               well. He also said that there
               were certain  
               public services which will not require the assistance they now receive; and first
               of all
               he
               
               proposes to reduce the grant for navigation  
               securities from $49,000 to $5,000.  If the people  
               of this province will agree to that reduction he  
               (Mr. B.) would be much astonished.  Then  
               again he said the St. Peter's Canal would be  
               finished and that expenditure
               would be saved.  
               He was at a loss to know how
               that could be  
               the case.  That work would certainly not be  
               completed before this liability would accrue.  
               It was rather singular that
               the Financial Secretary,  in his present retrenchment scheme,  
               should have hit upon the same
               figures as the  
               hon. Provincial Secretary used a few years  
               ago; or, at all events, should have arrived at  
               the same result.  He is going to save $80,000 a  
               year—just as the hon.Provincial Secretary intended to do before he got into office;
               but the
               
               tables are turned now—he has got into power  
               and not a word is heard about reducing the  
               salaries of public officers. 
               His plan now is to  
               reduce the grant to navigation securities and  
               other important services.
            
            
            Hon. FINL. SEC.—The only reduction proposed is with respect to those grants which 
               will terminate in this present session.
 
            
            
            Mr. BLANCHARD—Then the idea appears to  
               have been to get as much as possible
               this session, so that none will be wanted next. year.  
               He agreed entirely with the
               member for Halifax (Mr. Tobin), in
               his
               remarks as to the advantages of railway extension, but he did not 
               agree with him in some of the
               calculations he 
               had made—when
               he talked about the saving 
               that was effected by railroad travel, and
               put it 
               down at a dollar a day—he forgot that many  
               of these passengers did not go further
               than the 
               four mile 
house, or to Bedford—and
               it could not
               
               
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               be said of them that they saved that
               much. The  
               Hon Finl. Sec. undertook to prove that the  
               member for Colchester was wrong in his statement that a larger expenditure would be
               required for the future, for the maintenance
               of  
               the railroads, than had been necessary in
               the  
               past. Upon referring to the returns he found  
               that the cost of maintenance had been steadily  
               increasing year by year. He would be the  
               last person to alarm people as to the state of  
               the railroads, but every body knew that every  
               year the roads necessarily became more worn  
               out, and required repair. In 1861, the cost of  
               maintenance amounted to $34,000;
               in 1862,  
               $37,000. In '63, $47,000, and in the nine months  
               of 1864 $50,000. He did not
               wish to detain the  
               House much longer, but he would give them a  
               few figures shewing what Cape Breton would  
               have to pay towards the railway system  
               of Nova Scotia. She would be required to  
               pay one-fifth of the whole debt—or $128,000.
               
               The hon. member for Halifax talked about  
               mud roads as if they were of no consequence  
               at all. If he represented a country constituency he would find it a matter of a little
               more  
               importance then he seemed to think it now.  
               He is only willing to give us $100,000
               for what  
               he calls mud roads, but is perfectly ready to  
               vote $556,000 a year for iron
               roads. Now he  
               (Mr. B.) would yield to no man, in his opinion  
               as to the importance of railroads to a country,  
               but if they were only to be obtained by sacrificing the common roads which were of
               so much  
               importance to the great mass of the people he  
               would be inclined to pause,
               before incurring  
               any greater liability. At all events he could  
               not see how any one could doubt the propriety  
               of adopting the course proposed by the member for Colchester, to wait for a twelve
               month, 
               and see how affairs looked then, we would  
               then be able to ascertain how much the Pictou  
               road was actually going to cost. At present that  
               was uncertain. He had had a conversation  
               with contractors who had been employed on  
               the Truro road and they laughed at the idea of  
               its being built for two millions of dollars. Under these circumstances as a member
               of the  
               house, and a representative from Cape Breton  
               he was not prepared to authorize the enormous  
               expenditure contemplated by the resolution  
               before the house and he should
               vote against  
               them.