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House of Commons, 19 October 1903, Canadian Confederation with Alberta and Saskatchewan

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NORTH-WEST TERRITORIES ACT.

House again in committee on Bill (No. 259) to amend the North-west Territories Act.—The Minister of Justice.
Mr. SCOTT moved to add the following clause to the Bill :
Notwithstanding anything in the North-west Territories Act, or any Act in amendment thereto, the legislative assembly may, by ordinance, repeal the provisions of sections 49, 51, 53, 55, 64, 88, 89 and 90 of the said North-west Territories Act as amended and re-enacted the said provisions or substitute other provisions in lieu thereof, but nothing in this section contained shall be construed as giving to the legislative assembly power to pass ordinances for the con stitution, organization or maintenance of courts of criminal jurisdiction, or respecting procedure in criminal matters.
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE. The effect would be to confer on the North-west assembly power to regulate all matters connected with the civil jurisdiction of the province. That is to say, they may determine the sittings of the court, the places where the court is to sit, how often it is to sit : they may provide for the sittings of the court in banc or with a single judge; provide for the division of the territory into judicial districts ; define the territorial jurisdiction of the judges, and so on—all matters relating to the civil organization of the court. I think it is a step in the right direction.
Amendment agreed to.
Mr. SCOTT moved to add the following clause to the Bill :
Notwithstanding anything in the Northwest Territories Act, or any Act in amendment thereof, the legislative assembly may, by ordinance, repeal the provisions of sections 7, 8, 9, 11, and 12 of chapter 19 of the statutes of 1888, and section 18 of chapter 17 of the statutes of 1894, as that section is enacted by section 9 of chapter 28 of the statutes of 1897, and re-enact the said provisions or substitute other provisions in lieu thereof.
Mr. GOURLEY. This amendment seems objectionable, not necessarily in the subject matter, but in that it gives a local legislature power to repeal sections of a statute passed by this parliament. There must surely be some more logical way to get it than that. It would hardly be dignified for us to confer that power.
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE. I would draw to the attention of my hon. friend (Mr. Gourley) the fact that paragraph 4, now under consideration, has reference to the organization of the North-west council itself, as the other paragraph we have been discussing has reference to the organization of the courts. Now, if we repeal the provisions and merely give authority to the North-west council to make others, we leave an interregnum during which some embarrassing conditions might arise. By this amendment we, in effect, say that in all matters affecting the North-west assembly, that body shall have the right either to adopt what we have done or to repeal the enactments which we have passed, and substitute others. My hon. friend will see the difficulty of adopting any other course.
Mr. GOURLEY. I see, but still it seems that there ought to be some other way than to give power to the local legislature to repeal our enactments.
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE. It is a little off the line, but my hon, friend will see that it is not unconstitutional.
Mr. GOURLEY. I take it for granted that we have the power to delegate our authority. It is not so much the thing itself 14289 OCTOBER 19, 1903 as the mode of doing it that I call attention to-
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE. The difficulty that my hon. friend suggests occurred to my mind also, but it seems there is no relief. Suppose that these provisions were repealed. The North-west council may not sit for months yet. Should a by-election occur in the meantime, how is it to be provided for ? It seemed to me better to maintain the statute in these matters and simply give the legislature power to provide for the changes necessary.
Mr. GOURLEY. Has the hon. minister's department considered this and come to the conclusion that this is the only way in which it can be done ?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE. That is our view - this is the only way to avoid a hiatus.
Amendment agreed to.
Bill, as amended, reported: read the third time and passed.

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Canada. House of Commons Debates, 1875-1949. Provided by the Library of Parliament.

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