28/03/13

Permalink 12:43:17 pm, by Zaqir, 126 words, 45 views   English (CA)
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Foreign Term Issue

In 5.76 of the Iliad, the term "δῆμος" appears mid-sentence. Other instances of greek terms that appear tagged as "Term" have had a replacement english word that appears in the reader. This instance, however, does not. The line in the reader appears as follows:

"Dolopion, who had been made priest of the river Skamandros, and was honored in the as though he were a god"

In the Butler translation from Perseus, "δῆμος" appears as "Davos" (and was honored in the davos as though..) Other versions of the Butler translation that I've found on various school sites have rewritten the phrase to say "and was honored among the people as though..."

I left it as is for now, not knowing whether to use the Perseus Anglicized-greek or the other options.

27/03/13

Permalink 03:51:27 pm, by Zaqir, 3 words, 29 views   English (CA)
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Hours

9:45-3:45 - 6 hours
Permalink 01:59:14 pm, by Jenn, 11 words, 28 views   English (CA)
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Work Done March 27th

Finished Apollodorus' Epitome, began markup on Iliad Book VI. 9:45-2, 4.25 hours.
Permalink 12:59:27 pm, by Jenn, 311 words, 37 views   English (CA)
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Truncated or Omitted Passages in Apollodorus

There are a handful of passages from the original Frazer translation of Apollodorus that have been withheld from our version due to their context being unclear (i.e. block quotations which interrupt narrative flow). They are as follows:

Epitome 1.1.21: There is a sizeable portion here on the marriage of Pirithous and the fight of Theseus with the centaurs that has been removed. Frazer's footnote on this section comments that:

"This passage concerning the fight of Theseus with the centaurs at the marriage of Pirithous does not occur in our text of Apollodorus, but is conjecturally restored to it from Zenobius, or rather from his interpolator, who frequently quotes passages of Apollodorus without acknowledgement. The restoration was first proposed by professor C. Robert before the discovery of the Epitome; and it is adopted by R. Wagner in his edition of Apollodorus."

I checked the Perseus version of this section and the way that they have handled it is to include the omitted section as a quotation from Zenobius, complete with Frazer's explanation above.

Epitome 1.6.15a, b and c: These sections are quoted paragraphs from another work, Tzetzes's Scholia on Lycophron. Frazer includes in his footnotes for this section that:

"The following three paragraphs are extracted from the Scholia on Lycophron of Tzetzes, who seems to have borrowed them from Apollodorus."

Perseus has handled this by having separate tags for sections 15a, 15b and 15c in which they present this material as a quotation, with Frazer's citations, but as distinct from the original narrative.

Ostensibly though it is from other works, the truncated material is attributed to Apollodorus. The missing material in 1.1.21 does actually add useful context to that passage, but for the sake of clarity it may be best to find an unobtrusive way of presenting these as quotations belonging to other authors who may in turn have borrowed them from Apollodorus.

Permalink 11:08:15 am, by Greg, 26 words, 134 views   English (CA)
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PDF references for Apollodorus

The original 2 volume Frazer translation of Apollodorus has been made available on the Internet Archive. You can get access to them here:
Volume one
Volume two

Permalink 10:02:26 am, by Zaqir, 23 words, 23 views   English (CA)
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Re: Entities

Right on, thanks Chelsea. I just checked it out - works great. I added an "as" to the change in the character desc.

26/03/13

Permalink 01:58:07 pm, by Jenn, 7 words, 27 views   English (CA)
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Work Done March 26th

Clicked through Apollodorus Epitome to 1.7.18. 9:45-2, 4.25 hours.

25/03/13

Permalink 01:46:36 pm, by Chelsea, 220 words, 30 views   English (CA)
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Re: Entities

Zaquir, we fixed up the Pallas Athena issue you were talking about. Because of content I explained to Greg why it's actually better to refer to the character as "pallas athena" and not "pallas" "athena" since it is only Athena that is being talked about. I've added this explanation to her description, but she took on the name Pallas after regretfully killing Pallas (pallas_4). The code in between the entries was acting as a way of including a space between two tagged elements. It only has to be used when there is nothing but a white space between the two (for example, commas and periods and such mean you don't need to add it). But in this section, it was added because between the two entries of "pallas" and "athena" there was nothing but a space. But since I've taken them out and it's now just one entry "pallas athena" there is no need for the space or the code. So if you come across it again that's why it's there. Sorry if this is confusing, if you need Greg or I to explain please let us know! Also I have changed everything in the Iliad to reflect the new "pallas athena" so unless I've missed any it should be all sorted out, just wanted to explain what we did.
Permalink 01:40:35 pm, by Chelsea, 4 words, 23 views   English (CA)
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Hours

March 25th, 1145-145 (2 hours)
Permalink 12:44:31 pm, by Chelsea, 104 words, 35 views   English (CA)
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Re: Niobids

Jenn, I don't see why we can't make another group for them, as long as we only list the ones mentioned in the sources we've considered (As in if outside research tells you there are other Niobids or whatnot don't worry, just list the ones we have been given by Apollodorus, or Homer, though I don't believe they are mentioned in the Iliad) If you want to send me a couple of known places they are mentioned (or if they list who is in the group) I can make up a group for them or if you'd like to I'd say go for it

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